broinwhyteridge
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Agreed. A bit of a tantrum last year... anyone getting $1.1m should shut up and play their part.Hutch was done as a Jet the second he shot his mouth off.
Agreed. A bit of a tantrum last year... anyone getting $1.1m should shut up and play their part.Hutch was done as a Jet the second he shot his mouth off.
pavi for a million was the play chevy.
You can know less than someone overall and still be right about a situation...
Not saying they are, but saying this appeal to authority crap is simply just crap.
I think it is more like appealing to the guys who got us to the conference finals last year
I agree entirely. For a comparison, it might pay to have a look at Devan Dubnyk's stats for the Oilers and the Wild. Sometimes a team can tank a goalie (even while they're going for first overall).I think he'll do better if called up to the NHL with Winnipeg's defensive core in front of him. Edmonton's defense was a tire fire last season. At worst he'd be an excellent starting goalie for the Moose. I hope he does well!
How is that any better?
1) From a general sense, simply arguing the support in your argument, many GMs have gotten there. They've all done things that were wrong even without hindsight.
2) Also in general, being the tallest pony in the stable doesn't make you as tall as a horse. If the market it is inefficient, being the least inefficient doesn't make you optimized.
3) In the specific sense, that's still a crappy appeal to authority. The fact that they got to the conference finals last year does not mean every specific decision is correct based on that fact and that fact alone. You look at the specific evidence for and against the decision that was made, and you make an opinion on that decision based off that. You don't be a cult follower and simply say "the team did well so therefor I'm going to blindly say they must be right."
Again, I'm not arguing for or against Little's signing. I'm saying that --while anyone has the freedom to "give benefit of the doubt" in forming their own opinion-- you can't use that appeal as a catch all argument to support your case... or at least you cannot use it without someone else pointing out how bad that argument is.
I think people that do find success you give them greater leeway when they make decisions. I mean you don't operate in a bubble either but at some point it does mean they have an general idea of what a good and bad decision are.
I agree entirely. For a comparison, it might pay to have a look at Devan Dubnyk's stats for the Oilers and the Wild. Sometimes a team can tank a goalie (even while they're going for first overall).
Giving leeway is not blindly following.
Being generally good is not being perfect.
That's my whole argument.
So, if someone says "I think generally good person who we give leeway made a mistake here", you cannot argue "ya well they are generally good and we should give them leeway so we'll ignore any evidence that counters their decision."
I'm fine with people making their own minds or just trusting the process. That's up to them.
It does bother me though when they use such an appeal as actual evidence to support their own case or refute another's.
I'm a good hockey stats person, IMO, and have found a lot of success. I hope no one ever argues a case simply with "Garret thinks so, so it should be right."
I'm a good hockey stats person, IMO, and have found a lot of success. I hope no one ever argues a case simply with "Garret thinks so, so it should be right."
Agreed. Well it would be nice to think that Laurent brossoit could be another diamond in the rough from the Edmonton goalie graveyard, probability wise he's no better off than Eric Comrie. Apparently a large part of the problem was between his ears, and he was relatively easy to shake off his game. I'm hoping you can come in for at least 20 games and post .500 in them. Just give us a break even winning percentage.Dubnyk posted respectable numbers in Edmonton, save for one horrendous half season. He obviously improved significantly and benefited from getting out of Edmonton, there's no question.
Point is, I don't see Brossoit as some gem that we've dug up from the Oilers goalie graveyard.
Cap issues are real. What are u expecting? For them to pay 2 3 millipn for a backup today?
what cap issues? we just got rid of armia and Mason and didn't even resign statsny