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Winnipeg Jets select D Logan Stanley (1/18) Part II (Mod warning in OP)

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YWGinYYZ said:
They have a tendency to get it wrong an awful lot. :D
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Absolutely. And everyone will be wrong about prospects every once in awhile. I'm willing to admit I was definitely wrong about Tkachuk last year he has proven me so wrong about what I thought he could be and I'll wear that but at the same time I am definitely going to wear my ranking of Cychrun as the top dmen in the draft when everyone else had him falling like a rock. :nod:
 
Daximus said:
I'm not so sure Stanley really has that raw potential either. I honestly don't think being 6'7 gives him anymore raw potential than 6'1 Noah Carrol who is at about the same level of ability. It is true that through hard work you can improve and maybe Stanley loves pushing himself to get better, which is why the Jets picked him. But just because you have the drive to get better doesn't mean you are going to improve to the point where you are a top 4 dman, there is a limit to everyone's abilities. and I don't think we should pick anyone based on work ethic alone. Ideally you want all your players to work hard and I'm sure many do. But some guys just have a natural ability. That's why I think it's nothing like Scheifele. Scheif has a boat load of work ethic to get better but he's always had a lot of natural skill to go along with it. It's not like the kid was a 30 point player in junior who could barely skate. That's why I don't think he can be used to justify the Stanley pick because IMO there was a lot more in Scheifs toolbox to build on. He definitely had raw ability. I just don't see anything in Stanley that makes me think he has anymore raw ability than many of the other middling junior dmen.
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IDK, a few of the times I've watched him I've thought his IQ was actually several steps ahead of his body, like he's trying things he can't quite do yet, and that makes me think he might get there. But you're right -- Scheifs was always a special player. Stanley may not be. Maybe the Jets figured they'd take a flyer on the off-chance, given what was left on the board. No doubt he's a longshot, and part of me wishes LS was 6' 2", so they'd have avoided him. Then again, I'm not sold on Green, who reminds me more of Dumba than, say, JMo or vintage Enstrom in how he thinks the game.

It would be a whole lot easier, and maybe less stressful for us fans, if the Jets could reliably pick up UFAs or unsigned imports to fill in some of their roster holes, rather than relying on out-drafting everyone else. Maybe the next GM finds a way to do that. I seriously doubt that the PoMo/Chevy/Chipman clan ever does.
 
From what I've seen I think Stanley does have a pretty nice set of tools:

His size obviously
He's a good straight line skater (But given his work ethic I expect he will make strides in his agility and backwards skating)

He has good hands and is strong puck handler and can rush the puck effectively.

He also has a hard and good shot that he is able to get on target.

His offensive instincts are also solid.

The issues are he doesn't read the game all that well especially in his own end. He has poor gap and is slow to react.

We will have to see if he can make strides in these areas.
 
mazmin said:
BPA = best player available

BPA is not literal. If it was then the first round would be full of previously undrafted 20 year olds who had big seasons in Jr.

Teams use BPAAMP

BPAAMP = best player available at maturation point

Not true. I made that up. But I'm sure you see my point.
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Nope. Right over my head. No idea what you are trying to say. Sorry.:)
 
Deno said:
Well said. As a long time lurker and short time poster I find there are a lot of armchair quarterbacks on this site that are damn sure they know better then the people that make their living coaching, managing and scouting for NHL teams. Then again I'm just a Jet fan, what do I know.:sarcasm:
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Yeah, your right. We should all just come here to say what a wonderful job Chevy, Maurice, the scouts, Heisinger, Huddy, Flaherty, all the other teams' GM's, coaches, scouts are doing. I'm sure all 31 teams will win the cup next year. :sarcasm: Yay everybody. You all know what you're doing and make no mistakes. :sarcasm:
 
Mortimer Snerd said:
Nope. Right over my head. No idea what you are trying to say. Sorry.:)
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All I mean is that Jets are looking to draft the best player and Stanley is no exception. He was clearly not a better player at the time of the draft compared to others but Jets feel he will be best at time of his maturation (happens around 24-26 for dmen). Lots of time.
 
mazmin said:
All I mean is that Jets are looking to draft the best player and Stanley is no exception. He was clearly not a better player at the time of the draft compared to others but Jets feel he will be best at time of his maturation (happens around 24-26 for dmen). Lots of time.
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Well, you are right of course. They are trying to project. They don't really care who was the best player in the year just finished - except insofar as it predicts what the player will become. We can only wonder and speculate what made them think Stanley would catch and pass all those clearly better players that were there. Wonder and hope that they were right. :) Time will tell.
 
About 100x better chance of being an nhler than the 7th rounder but barely a mention of him before a big tournament. 1st ever 1st rounder playing in memorial cup and all you hear is crickets.
 
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ffh said:
About 100x better chance of being an nhler than the 7th rounder but barely a mention of him before a big tournament. 1st ever 1st rounder playing in memorial cup and crickets.
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Hasn't played since January. Not much to say really.

But despite that there has been lots of Stanley talk around here in various threads. Not sure which crickets you are talking about.
 
Gotta say, I'm more excited about this tourny than the NHL playoffs

Guys to watch--
Windsor, Stanley of course, DiPietro, Vilardi
Sea dogs, Veleno (2018 stud),
TBirds, Tyszka (would be a really nice LHD) Moilanen,

just to name a few
 
Tyszka is paired with Bear, right? If so, it's a bit concerning that he has so few points while being on the ice with an offensively dominant partner.
 
Hank Chinaski said:
^Never mind the fact that it was confirmed almost a month ago that he'd likely be playing in the Memorial Cup.
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May 3rd was the official announcement & was first mentioned here in post #709. I think there was some talk in the sticky prospects thread as well. In addition there was talk a few weeks prior to this that his coach thought he's return in time to play at the Memorial Cup.

Story might have got more legs in it's own thread. This one had beed inactive for a few weeks when I bumped it & very few commented on it.

Story is finally generating interest as the Memorial Cup begins this weekend.

I kinda like keeping things contained in single threads pertaining to a player, but often the headlines associated can cause confusion.

Good example was Roslovic's call-up on April 2nd & was added to the Roslovic signs ELC thread. Eventually the title was altered to reflect the more current story.

Curious how people feel about bumping older threads with new info.
 
lanky said:
Tyszka is paired with Bear, right? If so, it's a bit concerning that he has so few points while being on the ice with an offensively dominant partner.
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I'm not too concerned about the points, haven't really seen him and the scouts seem to like him, so I'll be very curious to see what he can do.
 
Arthur Fonzarelli said:
Curious how people feel about bumping older threads with new info.
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I very much prefer that. Older threads have additional discussion and context which is useful, creating new threads loses all that. Having it all in one thread also serves as nice historical documentation- you can read the player's thread and get a complete history on them and see what the narrative around them is and how it has evolved over time rather than have discussion scattered all over the place which is difficult to search for and organize. Here's to long running older threads
 
JetsFan815 said:
Mind enlightening the rest of us on how you reached this conclusion? (Other than just looking at their draft positions)
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Would one game count as being an NHLer? Draft position does mean an awful lot and this organization will spend at least six years to bring him to fruition.
 
ffh said:
About 100x better chance of being an nhler than the 7th rounder but barely a mention of him before a big tournament. 1st ever 1st rounder playing in memorial cup and all you hear is crickets.
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He's not playing in the memorial cup..
 
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