So tired of this "Oh Canada has it so bad". It's bad everywhere on the globe. Gimme a f***ing break. Not enough fans to watch Jets, ok. No need to make garbage excuses.
Winnipeg Jets: 11,226 Attendance tonight, cause for concern? What's going on in the 'Peg?
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Channelcat
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TNSE is in a unique situation owning the building and surrounding assets with no debt. They already knew they were down 2000 season ticket holders and will spend to the cap regardless. I think they are fine.
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I know there are a lot of Canadians on here, so it is no secret how expensive everything is in our country. Life has not been kind over the last 3-4 years (and even previous) if you were a small business owner for instance. Nor has it been kind to the middle class. I am not sure about the taxes in Manitoba off the top of my head, but inflation has just killed people. Times are very tough right now and Winnipeg doesn't have a plethora of those stuffy rich corporate types like in Toronto who don't even sit in their seat behind the bench half of the game and who couldn't pick out Auston Matthews in a line up.
It doesn't help that the Jets are not an inspiring franchise right now. They are that team that is always more or less the middle of the pack. Nothing special. But if you have the Cup winning Knights come into town and draw just 11,500 then that won't fly for long. And I have seen their home schedule for the next little while. St. Louis, NYR, Dallas, Nashville, NJ, Buffalo, Arizona................yikes. November 30th has the Oilers coming into town and then the Hawks and Bedard on December 2nd. That is a date you'd circle on the calendar. After that its Colorado. But there aren't a lot of those games where I would say "Oh, this one the fans will surely come and see."
It doesn't help that the Jets are not an inspiring franchise right now. They are that team that is always more or less the middle of the pack. Nothing special. But if you have the Cup winning Knights come into town and draw just 11,500 then that won't fly for long. And I have seen their home schedule for the next little while. St. Louis, NYR, Dallas, Nashville, NJ, Buffalo, Arizona................yikes. November 30th has the Oilers coming into town and then the Hawks and Bedard on December 2nd. That is a date you'd circle on the calendar. After that its Colorado. But there aren't a lot of those games where I would say "Oh, this one the fans will surely come and see."
And the business is failing with the current model.
Almost like fans don't want to pay insane prices for a mediocre team, either insane prices with an awesome team or cheap prices with a young team.
There isn't even any argument for what they're doing considering the numbers we're seeing in the crowds.
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I had some friends over the other day, just by a show of hands I asked who thinks Canada in the next 5 years will be a better place to live. Nothing but tumbleweed. I don't think I have honestly thought that about Canada prior to the last few years. But in so many ways we are on a poor trajectory, and it kills the middle class, hence Jets fans.
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It's not just the team on the ice, the economic factors are too much to ignore. I don't think attendance would be that much higher with a great team and higher pricing. I think the only thing that fills the arena again is an economic turnaround, or lower prices with a better team.
So then now would indeed be the best time to rebuild because even according to you nothing would raise the attendance one way or another.
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Maybe. That rebuild, in my opinion, is gonna take 7+ years. A lot can change in that time. All those years at lower prices make it harder to climb back up. A bad team now and the economy and I think 11.5k drops to 10.5k or lower. Plus as I brought up before, Winnipeg as a market can't be thought of voluntarily throwing in the towel.
The Jets have the richest and most stable ownership in the NHL.
The ENTIRE league.
I know people outside of Winnipeg hate hearing that, but it’s fact.
This team is going nowhere.
The ENTIRE league.
I know people outside of Winnipeg hate hearing that, but it’s fact.
This team is going nowhere.
Channelcat
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No team is going anywhere. The landscape has changed. Any market capable of supporting a franchise will be viewed at as a potential expansion franchise. The B.O.G. is not going to throw away 1 billion USD.
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50% of their ownership is the richest and most stable. The other 50% is the poorest and weakest owner in the NHL.
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Population is a huge driver. What makes Winnipeg unviable is that the franchise relies on a small rabid population. If the fans are not impressed with the product on the ice or there are other economic factors (like inflation), there isn't enough population to support.
Large cities will have a huge advantage. Houston would have no problem supporting a franchise and would have a natural rival in Dallas. They have a venue / arena (Toyota Center) and the owner has shown interest in a hockey team. They will have no issue with corporate sponsorship. Its one of the richest cities in North America due to the oil money.
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The Edmonton Oilers are a comparatively small city and small team and yet were the 5th highest revenue team in the league in 2022. More than the Blackhawks or Bruins.
I know it's still early season but I've never seen a Habs vs Sabres game so empty in the lower bowl...
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If I was the Winnipeg Owner and someone wants the team to move to Houston,how about a fee of say 2 Billion at least! Seriously most American markets support their team when they are winning and disappear when they're not
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That's a pretty dynamic young group. You'd have to be the worst cynic to stay away for that reason.
We've debated ticket costs, the impact of the pandemic on economies, increased costs for essentials when it comes to Winnipeg. The Sportsnet crew doing the game brought it up tonight too.
I don't know enough about the fan base, and where they historically draw from, except to say that when the NHL toyed with the idea of putting a team in Hamilton they were as vocal as the Leafs were. How many traditional fans crossed the border to watch?
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