OT: Winnipeg ICE sold - Moving to Wenatchee, Washington renamed Wenatchee Wild

[snowkiddin]

Yeah, apparently the Flyers GM was in the barn. Flyers pick 7

I could see him going there. I’m still doing some research but I’d have him in around that range.

 

[Guardian17]

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[RetroWinnipeg]

This is really turning into last year’s Ice-Oil Kings series. Or dare I say the round 1 Jets-Golden Knights series.

 

[jetsmooseice]

I don't think it's time to write the obituary yet. Let's remember that in round 2 the ICE got pumped hard by Moose Jaw in game 3, even worse than last night, to go down 2-1. There was a pretty nervous feeling at the time, but the ICE got it together and played a much more composed and disciplined series from there on out, and took the series.

It's likely that the ICE have learned from their mistakes, going hard with the man on man approach and leaving attackers wide open isn't going to work against a team like Seattle. There is definitely time to right the ship, it's only game 4. Win tonight and it becomes a best of 3 series. It ain't over... let's go, boys.

 

[superdeluxe]

I don't think it's time to write the obituary yet. Let's remember that in round 2 the ICE got pumped hard by Moose Jaw in game 3, even worse than last night, to go down 2-1. There was a pretty nervous feeling at the time, but the ICE got it together and played a much more composed and disciplined series from there on out, and took the series.

It's likely that the ICE have learned from their mistakes, going hard with the man on man approach and leaving attackers wide open isn't going to work against a team like Seattle. There is definitely time to right the ship, it's only game 4. Win tonight and it becomes a best of 3 series. It ain't over... let's go, boys.

Absolutely, outside of that 3 goal fury in the 1st, the game was pretty even and back and forth the rest of the way.

 

[jetsmooseice]

Absolutely, outside of that 3 goal fury in the 1st, the game was pretty even and back and forth the rest of the way.

In fairness, this is fairly normal in one-sided games, you see a team put up a flurry of goals and then once a big lead is established, the game settles down to a more even affair (as opposed to continuing to run up the score). I'm not going to pretend that the ICE didn't get dominated last night.

But that said, the ICE have bounced back from big losses to win the next game. And I'm optimistic that they will learn from what went wrong and put up a better showing tonight.

 

[RetroWinnipeg]

Both OHL & QMJHL games still have lots of time on the clock.

Expect Ice/Thunderbirds game to start online again (TSN.ca or app)

By which I mean starting on TSN5.

 

[jetsmooseice]

Much calmer and more composed start for the ICE tonight. But no dice on the first PP.

 

[CaptainUgly]

1-0 Ice LFG

 

[jetsmooseice]

DEUCES WILD!!!!! #22 Carson Latimer finds an incredible burst of speed to get by Hanzel and get it past Milic for a 1-0 ICE lead.

And now Hauser with the spectacular glove save on Schaefer!!!

 

[snowkiddin]

Damn the ICE are clueless in their own end.

 

[jetsmooseice]

15 seconds away from the intermission but Korchinski gets one through traffic to tie it up...

 

[snowkiddin]

Pretty weak ass penalty

 

[snowkiddin]

Might sound harsh, and they would never do it after a finals appearance, but if the ICE don’t come back to make this a series I would strongly consider removing Cockell as GM. He bungled their window by making the same mistake two years in a row and it was pretty clear this was gonna happen.

Of course, he’s the president, so he might have to fire himself

I know it’s not the NHL where it’s easy to find a replacement but it’s just frustrating because a few of us were warning this would happen months ago while Seattle loaded up (like Edmonton last year) and we just p***yfooted around. The window is gone. No excuses.

 

[tbcwpg]

Might sound harsh, and they would never do it after a finals appearance, but if the ICE don’t come back to make this a series I would strongly consider removing Cockell as GM. He bungled their window by making the same mistake two years in a row and it was pretty clear this was gonna happen.

Of course, he’s the president, so he might have to fire himself

I know it’s not the NHL where it’s easy to find a replacement but it’s just frustrating because a few of us were warning this would happen months ago while Seattle loaded up (like Edmonton last year) and we just p***yfooted around. The window is gone. No excuses.

I think they figured last year that Edmonton was a year older and likely better even with some additions, so they'd focus on this year. Inexplicably they didn't do much to help their chances, at least compared to the other contenders in the league. Seattle got some players via trade (or the Jets assigning them there), Kamloops went in for Zelweger.

 

[snowkiddin]

I think they figured last year that Edmonton was a year older and likely better even with some additions, so they'd focus on this year. Inexplicably they didn't do much to help their chances, at least compared to the other contenders in the league. Seattle got some players via trade (or the Jets assigning them there), Kamloops went in for Zelweger.

They were still the top team in the league last year and had some good pieces that weren’t gonna be coming back that I think they should’ve done more to support last year. When they didn’t do much, they should’ve gone all in this year.

Instead they were caught holding the bag and fell so far behind in the arms’ race that they ended up massively overpaying for Ostapchuk who has been invisible for a good 10 games now (but to be fair was a big part of the win over Moose Jaw).

Lattimer, Nash, Sward, and Armstrong are good supporting players but not big enough additions when you saw what the other teams were doing.

 

[Halfy]

some pretty brutal officiating in that final period it must be said. Unfortunate because the ice probably deserved to win that one. Oh well, it’s hockey

 

[Guardian17]

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[jetsmooseice]

Frustrating game. The ICE played much much better and certainly well enough to win. But a couple of bad bounces and it just didn't work out. Latimer's second goal being called back was probably the back-breaker, the team lost its momentum at that point.

Even if the ICE lose this series I will still look back pretty fondly on this season. It was an amazing run by a very talented group. I saw lots of great hockey.

But that said, it's hard to overlook @snowkiddin 's comments. Seattle was loading up with guys who spent a good chunk of the season in the pros and WJHCs, while the ICE loaded up on Zack Ostapchuk and depth pieces from mediocre Saskatchewan teams. Getting outgunned by Seattle is not the end of the world in and of itself, but now the ICE are in the unenviable position of having mortgaged the future bigly with a multi-year hangover impending, but without a championship to show for it. Selling tickets has been hard enough with a dominant, exciting, entertaining team. What's it going to be like when they're staring down the barrel of a 8-win season in a couple of years, regardless of where the team is located?

It has been brutal this series watching the ICE get pushed around by some of the same guys who did it last year, namely Guenther and Prokop. Prokop in particular is exactly the kind of player that the ICE needed, a big body on defense. Zellweger could have made a huge difference if the ICE had snagged him, more so than Ostapchuk considering the ICE's forward depth. But the ICE only got two defensemen... one who has been good (Sward) and one who has barely been on skates due to injuries (Wilson). That was nowhere near enough to shore up the ICE's defense. Lambos, Sward and Zloty just weren't enough. Woo could only do so much as a smaller 16 year old, and I'm still not sure what was going on with Prosofsky.

The bottom line is that the boys did their best. If they lose this series it's because they got outgunned in the boardroom, not on the ice.

 

[superdeluxe]

I felt the 2nd period for the ice was the best period that I had seen from them. How relentless the ice attack in that period was honestly kind of scary for me to watch as a birds fan.

Hauser made some amazing stops as well, it was an intense game and I’m still a little stressed out. Here is hoping to a good game on Friday

 

[jetsmooseice]

I felt the 2nd period for the ice was the best period that I had seen from them. How relentless the ice attack in that period was honestly kind of scary for me to watch as a birds fan.

Hauser made some amazing stops as well, it was an intense game and I’m still a little stressed out. Here is hoping to a good game on Friday

The TBirds were strong, but Milic is an absolute difference maker. Hauser is a great goalie but as we have seen in the MJ series and now, he is prone to melting down. When the team goes through one of its puck handling breakdowns, he doesn't consistently bail the team out. Milic usually does. He is something else.

 

[RetroWinnipeg]

2009: Moose vs. Bears
2018: Jets vs. Predators
2022: Ice vs. Oil Kings

Can you guess what all of these have in common?
(yes, I've mentioned this here before)

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

2009: Moose vs. Bears
2018: Jets vs. Predators
2022: Ice vs. Oil Kings

Can you guess what all of these have in common?
(yes, I've mentioned this here before)

What are... 6 teams that have never been in my kitchen, Alex?

 

[snowkiddin]

The TBirds were strong, but Milic is an absolute difference maker. Hauser is a great goalie but as we have seen in the MJ series and now, he is prone to melting down. When the team goes through one of its puck handling breakdowns, he doesn't consistently bail the team out. Milic usually does. He is something else.

I wouldn’t be opposed to using a late pick on Milic honestly (by the Jets). I know he’s a double-overage goalie and the things I’ve read are he’s not likely to do much in the NHL (he’s already peaked, apparently) but still his accolades and stats are difficult to overlook.

 

[lanky]

The Ice blew their trade chips this year but I think they can still be the top team AGAIN next season.

There will be a lot of departures but I expect Savoie, Geekie and Benson to be back. Same with Hauser. Maybe they can convince Sward to return for an over-ager season and another crack at the Memorial Cup. It wouldn't be that strange for a defenceman picked in the 5th round.

Maybe take a home-run swing in the import draft or trade for the rights of someone who likely won't report to a lower ranked team.