Confirmed with Link: Wings out of the bidding for Lecavalier, according to Khan (post #743)

[The Zetterberg Era]

If it's what it takes to land him, I'd think about 6.

I wouldn't blink at that especially if this term length is pretty true.

I honestly was thinking 5 for 30 million. I know people are worried, but we cannot save on everyone and Vinny is the kind of guy you spend money on. He provides so many answers and allows us a lot of different looks come playoff time.

He isn't a guy I want to haggle on price over with. He is still an extremely good player.

 

[RedWingsNow*]

I don't see Vinny getting anywhere near 5.5m.

Guys like Flip and Weiss think they're worth $5M.

 

[Vladdy84]

At least Joe Dumars isn't our GM.....

 

[PelagicJoe]

If it's what it takes to land him, I'd think about 6.

Exactly. We need some offensive help badly, and I will be tempted to join the Holland hate bandwagon if he doesn't (at the very least) make a serious attempt to pick up Lecavalier.

 

[JmanWingsFan]

Not sure whether I want Vinny or not.

 

[golffuul]

I think we should really make a sweet deal for him and offer 4yrs/20M and get all the also-rans out of the initial feeding frenzy.

 

[WingsOverAvs]

Dreger speculating he'd probably get 4.5-5 mill on TSN thats hockey. He said 3 years should be fine.

So where's everyone slamming Dreger for saying the same thing I did?

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

The concern I have is that Detroit is going to have to give Lecavalier a reason not to sign in Montreal. The reason this is such a concern is because Holland tends to lowball free agents. If Lecavalier can get more money in Montreal AND play for his hometown team, then he's going to.

The Wings need to offer more. I think it's about as simple as that.

 

[PelagicJoe]

The concern I have is that Detroit is going to have to give Lecavalier a reason not to sign in Montreal. The reason this is such a concern is because Holland tends to lowball free agents. If Lecavalier can get more money in Montreal AND play for his hometown team, then he's going to.

The Wings need to offer more. I think it's about as simple as that.

Bingo. Let Flip & Cleary walk, buyout Sammy, and we should be able to do this. Emmerton's contract is up this year too, isn't it? If so, that's more money to burn.

 

[ThankYouBasedGod]

Lecavalier is not going to Montreal. He would give them four centres who don't play wing and they have Subban to sign long term after this season.

 

[JmanWingsFan]

I say let Montreal overpay for him. If we wanted a 2nd line center who could give us somewhere in the neighborhood of 40-50 points and mediocre to subpar defense, we might as well bring up Jarnkrok (Who's young and can actually get better, not worse).

 

[SportsballChic]

So where's everyone slamming Dreger for saying the same thing I did?

I still think he's wrong; but I'll apologize if he signs for anywhere near that Cheers.

 

[ThankYouBasedGod]

I say let Montreal overpay for him. If we wanted a 2nd line center who could give us somewhere in the neighborhood of 40-50 points and mediocre to subpar defense, we might as well bring up Jarnkrok (Who's young and can actually get better, not worse).

Jarnkrok is not going too be putting up 40-50 points right out of the gate.

 

[Ricelund]

I say let Montreal overpay for him. If we wanted a 2nd line center who could give us somewhere in the neighborhood of 40-50 points and mediocre to subpar defense, we might as well bring up Jarnkrok (Who's young and can actually get better, not worse).

There's no way you'd get 40-50 points out of Jarnkrok.

 

[odin1981]

I'd throw 5-6 million at him for 3-4 years no question. That way we would be able to roll 3 puck possesion lines with ironhook starting as a #3 center when he makes it to the bigs and eventually trading places with lecav at the 3rd or 4th year.

The good thing about sammy is he hasn't gone under the knife yet. So he could be cleared to be bought out. If we trade emmerton at the draft we would have 3-4 million left to resign brunner as well also.

 

[sepster]

The concern I have is that Detroit is going to have to give Lecavalier a reason not to sign in Montreal. The reason this is such a concern is because Holland tends to lowball free agents. If Lecavalier can get more money in Montreal AND play for his hometown team, then he's going to.

The Wings need to offer more. I think it's about as simple as that.

I would think that at the point Vinny is in his career, with the money he has made and will collect off the buyout, winning would be his top priority. Detroit is looking better than Montreal in terms of long-term stability and consistency.

Having said that, I don't think Kenny should lowball him, but I think if the deals are similar, detroit has the edge. Plus, accounting that he has already said he would be open to and excited to play for Detroit.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I say let Montreal overpay for him. If we wanted a 2nd line center who could give us somewhere in the neighborhood of 40-50 points and mediocre to subpar defense, we might as well bring up Jarnkrok (Who's young and can actually get better, not worse).

That is a pretty low-end projection on Vinny too in my opinion. His injury seasons still put him in a 60 point range pace. He paced out to 68 points last season.

You can say he will be hurt forever, his last three years have not been kind, but lets not compare him to an NHL rookie, that is not a great idea.

 

[JmanWingsFan]

There's no way you'd get 40-50 points out of Jarnkrok.

You laugh, but the one man Jarnkrok keeps getting compared to got 44 points in his rookie season.

 

[Point Shot]

I'd plop down 5.5 for Vinny.

If he puts up 60 points and mentors Nyquist and Tatar, what more would you really ask for?

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

You laugh, but the one man Jarnkrok keeps getting compared to got 44 points in his rookie season.

He's not as good as him, though. That's an easy answer.

 

[cupforwings09]

You laugh, but the one man Jarnkrok keeps getting compared to got 44 points in his rookie season.

On one of the most stacked rosters ever with plenty of veteran hall-of-fame leadership. Jarnkrok might be great one day, but Vinny will make more of an impact fot he next 2-3 years. This is an easy decision imo. I can't believe you are wavering at all. What is the reasoning?

 

[Ricelund]

You laugh, but the one man Jarnkrok keeps getting compared to got 44 points in his rookie season.

So does this mean Pulkkinen could jump in and score 30+ goals?

Horrible point.

 

[GrindNMuck]

As a wings fan i would like to see Lecavalier come to Detroit, but i do not see him doing that at all. He wants to go to the Canadians.

 

[JmanWingsFan]

So does this mean Pulkkinen could jump in and score 30+ goals?

Horrible point.

Different era of Hockey. Point still stands. If management thinks they have a guy that plays like Zetterberg, and mind you he's already been playing in a professional men's league and won a championship, then I think if he's given the right linemates he could pot 40 points.

 

[sarcastro]

Vinny's a good faceoff man, he can score when he's healthy, he's a winner, and if he's not healthy he's not on your cap.

He also grew up rooting for the Wings and would probably love the chance to get some payback by making Stevie look bad in his own team's sweater. Maybe. I dunno. Pull all the strings you can and see if any of them tug him in your direction.

If they're going to get a 2nd center in UFA anyway, and it appears they will, I can't articulate how much better Lecavalier would be than Flip (duh) or Weiss (soft/fra-gee-lay) or Ribeiro (d-bag).

If they strike out on Vinny maybe they try Roy but he's fra-gee-lay himself, not a particularly good faceoff man, and hasn't been close to the player he was around 2008 or so.