Blue Jays Discussion: Will play Texas in the ALDS (Playoff Avatars in Posts 1-4)

[SpezDispenser]

Let's say Storman does pitch Game 2, wins and it puts the Jays up 2-0 in the series. I would rather take my chances with Dickey in Game 3, because there have been times when he didn't have the best home starts and so far Storman looks to be the better option.

That's the other way to look at it. You could put them on the ropes in a huge way obviously.

 

[TF97]

If we face the Rangers, do you think they'll throw Gallardo at us in game 2 or 3?

I'd imagine Gallardo would go in game 2, with Holland following him in game 3.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

If we face the Rangers, do you think they'll throw Gallardo at us in game 2 or 3?

If I was them, I'd pitch him in game 1, and bring him back for a second start in the series.

 

[Raging Bull]

So does Zaun even have Stroman making a start in the ALDS?

 

[TF97]

Zaun officially bothers me more than Kevin Barker

 

[Canada4Gold]

Let's say Storman does pitch Game 2, wins and it puts the Jays up 2-0 in the series. I would rather take my chances with Dickey in Game 3, because there have been times when he didn't have the best home starts and so far Storman looks to be the better option.

The logic for Dickey game 2 is this.

Stroman has been just as good at home as on the road.

Dickey has been far better at home. You say there has been bad starts at home sure, but there's been far far far more bad starts on the road.

So Stroman 2, Dickey 3 you're likely to get a regular Stroman type start, and a bad Dickey start, whereas Stroman 2, and Dickey 3 you're likely to get a regular Stroman start and a good Dickey start.

It's possible you get a bad Dickey start of course. These things happen, but you're more likely to get a good Dickey start at home in game 2 than on the road.

Dickey's home ERA is 3.11, his road ERA is 4.83. That's a huge difference.

I get that logic, and it's fine. But I think you go Stroman game 2 to leave that Price 4, Stroman 5 to end the series as an option.

 

[Trouba95*]

Thank god Zaun isn't managing this team. All he sees is Estrada's ERA and doesn't know the fact that he's been incredibly lucky.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Price
Dickey
Stroman
Estrada
Price

I fail to see the complication.

 

[Canada4Gold]

If I was them, I'd pitch him in game 1, and bring him back for a second start in the series.

They can do that if they start him in game 2 as well. Regular rest between games 2 and 5.

So does Zaun even have Stroman making a start in the ALDS?

Game 4 I guess.

If Zaun thinks Estrada deserves a guaranteed start(games 1-3), then have him take Dickey's start if you feel that strongly about it. Taking away your 2nd best pitchers start is just dumb.

Can the Yankees hire Zaun as their manager please? He'd start Nova ahead of Severino.

 

[TF97]

Price
Dickey
Stroman
Estrada
Price

I fail to see the complication.

Meanwhile, if Zaun was managing we'd have something like...

Price
Dickey
Estrada
Buehrle
Price/Stroman

 

[TF97]

They can do that if they start him in game 2 as well. Regular rest between games 2 and 5.



Game 4 I guess.

If Zaun thinks Estrada deserves a guaranteed start(games 1-3), then have him take Dickey's start if you feel that strongly about it. Taking away your 2nd best pitchers start is just dumb.

Can the Yankees hire Zaun as their manager please? He'd start Nova ahead of Severino.

Zaun would start Crapuano over Severino because he's a "veteran who was once an all-star"

 

[Canada4Gold]

Meanwhile, if Zaun was managing we'd have something like...

Price
Dickey
Estrada
Buehrle
Price/Stroman

not enough Hutch, we need those wins.

You can take out Price, he hasn't been a part of this team all year like Hutch. Hutch got us here, that's the guys who you ride in the postseason. The guys who got us here.

 

[mikebel111*]

Zaun has a huge issue with youngsters or people without a lot of experience

Its the same reason he ripped Harper in that incident IMO which wasn't right. I don't even like Harper but Harper didn't do anything wrong there

If it was up to Zaun, he wouldn't even have a MLB draft

 

[trellaine201]

So are they giving up on going for the best record in the AL? If they win tonight and tomorrow it will guarantee that since they have the tie breaker.

Kinda looks like they prefer to play the west champion? Unofficially.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Zaun has a huge issue with youngsters or people without a lot of experience

Its the same reason he ripped Harper in that incident IMO which wasn't right. I don't even like Harper but Harper didn't do anything wrong there

If it was up to Zaun, he wouldn't even have a MLB draft

you can be an MLB starter once you've already been an MLB starter for at least 5 years and proven you've deserved it. Until then you're not going to be an MLB starter

 

[UNB Bruins Fan]

Price
Dickey
Stroman
Estrada
Price

I fail to see the complication.

That's what I think it will be too...not that I necessarily agree with it, but I think that is what they go with.

If they are dead set against pitching Price on 3 days rest in game 4 (which I think they will be) then it makes more sense to have the rotation lined up so Dickey pitches at home.

 

[Loosie]

The bullpen day doesn't mean they are 'giving up' on the AL lead, it means they habe no one to start tomorrow. Estrada's pitching today, Dickey and Stroman haven't had enough rest, Price is starting Game 1 so you don't want him starting, and Buehrle pitched yesterday.

From the sounds of it if they are going to try and give Buehrle his 2 innings, he;s going to start (likely play just the two innings) and then bullpen from there.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

That's what I think it will be too...not that I necessarily agree with it, but I think that is what they go with.

If they are dead set against pitching Price on 3 days rest in game 4 (which I think they will be) then it makes more sense to have the rotation lined up so Dickey pitches at home.

Please cite an example of a pitcher starting on 3 days rest that worked out positively.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Please cite an example of a pitcher starting on 3 days rest that worked out positively.

the only time Price has started on 3 days rest in his career

 

[TF97]

not enough Hutch, we need those wins.

You can take out Price, he hasn't been a part of this team all year like Hutch. Hutch got us here, that's the guys who you ride in the postseason. The guys who got us here.

You know what? I think you're on to something here. Without Hutch and his wins, who knows where we would be?

 

[The Nemesis]

you can be an MLB starter once you've already been an MLB starter for at least 5 years and proven you've deserved it. Until then you're not going to be an MLB starter

Have you won the Cy Young yet? No? Then sit your ass down and ride the bus in the minors.

 

[Canada4Gold]

You know what? I think you're on to something here. Without Hutch and his wins, who knows where we would be?

How many wins does Hutch have? 13, we'd have 13 less wins. Basically Hutch has made us a playoff team, and we're not using him in the playoff? Disgusting

 

[p.l.f.]

I can't stand Joe Siddal or whatever his name is

 

[UNB Bruins Fan]

Please cite an example of a pitcher starting on 3 days rest that worked out positively.

Derek Lowe pitched pretty decent on 2 days rest in game 7 of the 2004 ALCS.

I know I said I don't necessarily agree with the Price/Dickey/Stroman/Estrada line-up....after thinking about it more that set-up is probably the best way to go.

 

[TF97]

How many wins does Hutch have? 13, we'd have 13 less wins. Basically Hutch has made us a playoff team, and we're not using him in the playoff? Disgusting

This team makes me sick. First off you take your best pitcher out of the rotation. I mean, just look at his numbers. I don't care about his ERA, he wins games. Then they might not have Mark Buehrle on the post season roster? He's won a World Series, he is a winner.