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Will Ovechkin hit 20 goals this season?

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He's getting his chances and needs a change on the powerplay setup. It's stagnant and predictable. He's still hitting and goals will eventually happen. He wants the team to win more anyway.
 
Has Wayne Gretzky played some kind of Jedi mind-trick on Ovechkin to command him to stop scoring goals?
 
IafrateOvie34 said:
He's getting his chances and needs a change on the powerplay setup. It's stagnant and predictable. He's still hitting and goals will eventually happen. He wants the team to win more anyway.
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What do you mean by this? How does the Caps win more by Ovi not scoring goals and in general being a defensive liability etc? Right now the Caps are winning despite giving Ovechkin top line minutes. Imagine if WSH had a young star player with Ovis salary, they would be a contender!
 
Dessloch said:
What do you mean by this? How does the Caps win more by Ovi not scoring goals and in general being a defensive liability etc? Right now the Caps are winning despite giving Ovechkin top line minutes. Imagine if WSH had a young star player with Ovis salary, they would be a contender!
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For one he still has influence and the Caps are winning due to Lindgren and influx of youth who paid their dues in Hershey’s Calder cup run. To say they would be a contender, well it’s like throwing darts with any team this season. He will get his goals. Also, it’s great having new coaching staff who will play youth.
 
IafrateOvie34 said:
He's getting his chances and needs a change on the powerplay setup. It's stagnant and predictable. He's still hitting and goals will eventually happen. He wants the team to win more anyway.
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Respectfully, this sounds like denial/glass half full. Ovi can still possibly put up 25-30, but he looks old and pretty bad. I’ve watched a number of Caps games and he is a shell of himself, thus far. He cannot corral the puck, floats more, looks slower, and overall does not have the burst. Life comes at you fast.
 
george14 said:
Respectfully, this sounds like denial/glass half full. Ovi can still possibly put up 25-30, but he looks old and pretty bad. I’ve watched a number of Caps games and he is a shell of himself, thus far. He cannot corral the puck, floats more, looks slower, and overall does not have the burst. Life comes at you fast.
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Small technical skills like corralling the puck tend to not immediately and drastically fall off a cliff with age. Those are some of the last things to go. That's why a potential injury might be hampering him.

But other than that, yeah, he's showing all the signs. Lack of speed, physicality down the toilet, endurance, etc. etc.
I hate to say it but me thinks he's done as an impact player.
 
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george14 said:
Respectfully, this sounds like denial/glass half full. Ovi can still possibly put up 25-30, but he looks old and pretty bad. I’ve watched a number of Caps games and he is a shell of himself, thus far. He cannot corral the puck, floats more, looks slower, and overall does not have the burst. Life comes at you fast.
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No denial here and I don’t disagree. I’ve accepted he’s going to play because of the record chase and Leonsis wants it, whether I like it or not. To me, he already has it no thanks to stupid lockouts. Older skilled guys have to adapt and not rely on pure skill. Look at Bobby Carpenter. At the end, he was a checking line type. Indeed, age catches up and surprises all of us. For a goal scorer it hits fast. Take your pick of former Goal scorers who dried up. Also, the Caps power play stinks mightily. Get that fixed and he can score 20 to 30 just as a specialist. Nobody is expecting him to carry the team anymore. Most guys retire at 38 or less. I don‘t know of any Caps fan believing he is going to be prime Ovy.
 
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He's still leading the team in scoring that's certainly something
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I wonder what happens when this isn't the case?

Either way Ovi should be leading the Capitals in scoring given his PPTOI and offensive zone starts and the record really looks in doubt now not that it matters except to a select few.
 
I still think Ovy will break the record. I suppose the biggest thing for me is I just don't think he will just stop scoring now that he is 38. Probably because with Gretzky there was a gradual decline where he was pacing for 20 to 25 goals in this mid-30s before scoring 9 his final year.

Ovechkin scored 50 and 42 these last two years at the age he was. I just have a hard time accepting Father Time has caught up to him in just a few months.
 
If Caps make the playoffs, what are the chances that Ovechkin doesn't play in them to rest for the next season? Can't imagine him breaking his body in the playoffs while trying to chase the record.
 
3 non empty net goals in 25 games is a drastic fall off the cliff and from grace. Didn't expect it to happen that quickly.

Will give him the benefit of the doubt and reassess in about 15 games or the middle of the season.

Would have expected the Caps to get him a couple more empty net goals. Will be fun to see if he can create some obscure history scoring more empty net goals than regular ones.
 
TheTotalPackage said:
I still think Ovy will break the record. I suppose the biggest thing for me is I just don't think he will just stop scoring now that he is 38. Probably because with Gretzky there was a gradual decline where he was pacing for 20 to 25 goals in this mid-30s before scoring 9 his final year.

Ovechkin scored 50 and 42 these last two years at the age he was. I just have a hard time accepting Father Time has caught up to him in just a few months.
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Hank Aaron hit 40 home runs at age 39. He hit 42 for the next three seasons combined.
 
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Legion34 said:
I honestly don’t care either way if he gets it or not.

But lots of players just wake up one day and don’t have it

I’m not saying this is what’s happening

But hull. Iginla heck Thornton mid season
It’s generally not a slow decline it’s a cliff at the end
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Russian machine never broke, just ran out of slappin fuel
 
It is crazy how they are winning (yeah, the Blackhawks, but still) with Ovechkin not scoring and taking that much ice time and PP time. I would never have predicted that.
 
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It feel a bit strange seeing a 4 goals or more games from the Capitals without some being from Ovechkin.

He is shooting 2% at even strength (single goal this season), must be getting due for a couple at some point, should be unsustainably low.
 
Came here to say at the beginning of the season when the Capitals played in the windy city tonight that thought both guys would be leading their teams in scoring.

Here are their lines after tonight.


27-11-12-23

25-5-11-16

Who would have most people picked with the first stat line between the 2?

It happens that it belongs to Bedard and he now has the torch of mostly exciting goal scorer in the NHL.

We literally saw a transfer of power here.
 
He looks horrible. It’s as if he lost 70% of his skills and well, everything else in the off season. if Father Time hasn’t caught up to him then he’s basically coasting because he doesn’t care at this point. lol
 
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