Will Leafs Pursue Stamkos? Part 2

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Make a top 6 in the near future

Marner - Stamkos - Laine
JVR - Nylander - xxx

with Leivo, Leipsic, Kapanen, Gauthier, Brown, Holland and co holding up the rest of the roster.

Defense:

Rielly - Phanuef
xxxxxx - Zaitsev
Dermott? - xxxx

If all meet their potential we could have a good team. Keep rotating out the bottom pairing D and forwards and invest the money in the top 6 and top 4 just like Chicago did.
 
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WTFMAN99

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Make a top 6 in the near future

Marner - Stamkos - Laine
JVR - Nylander - xxx

with Leivo, Leipsic, Kapanen, Gauthier, Brown and co holding up the rest of the roster.

Defense:

Rielly - Phanuef
xxxxxx - Zaitsev
Dermott? - xxxx

If all meet their potential we could have a good team. Keep rotating out the bottom pairing D and forwards and invest the money in the top 6 and top 4 just like Chicago did.

Long term you're screwed if the plan is to have Phaneuf on the top pairing.

I'd rather have Matthews-Marner as a duo on the top line, with Nylander holding up 2C, and if you can, move heaven and earth to get the Pittsburgh pick up to like 7-9 range to grab Sergachev.
 

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Matthews, Nylander, Stamkos and Marner plus JVR and Kadri for a top six would be a pretty compelling top six. Add a couple of other prospects coming up like Timashov, Brown, Soshnikov Kapanen, Dzierkals, Bracco, Johnson, Leivo and that's an interesting top nine. After this draft, focus on drafting defensemen, and convert a forward prospect or two into more defensemen.
 

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Make a top 6 in the near future

Marner - Stamkos - Laine
JVR - Nylander - xxx

with Leivo, Leipsic, Kapanen, Gauthier, Brown and co holding up the rest of the roster.

Defense:

Rielly - Phanuef
xxxxxx - Zaitsev
Dermott? - xxxx

If all meet their potential we could have a good team. Keep rotating out the bottom pairing D and forwards and invest the money in the top 6 and top 4 just like Chicago did.

I think that if Stamkos comes, Phaneuf goes. Stamkos will be the new captain. Besides, having 18 mil roughly tied up in those 2 players is not smart.
 

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I think that if Stamkos comes, Phaneuf goes. Stamkos will be the new captain. Besides, having 18 mil roughly tied up in those 2 players is not smart.

If we can move Phanuef then we go for it, but what teams would take him for 7M at this point?


Also, 2021 is 5 years away, we have Kadri and Rielly to pay for in the next little while, which should cost probably a combined 10-11M. Nylander won't need a new contract until 2019-2020 and Phanuef would be much easier to move at that point with an actual salary of 3.5M. I don't think we will have to worry about the cap.

BRB, eating my hat.
 
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Matthews, Nylander, Stamkos and Marner plus JVR and Kadri for a top six would be a pretty compelling top six. Add a couple of other prospects coming up like Timashov, Brown, Soshnikov Kapanen, Dzierkals, Bracco, Johnson, Leivo and that's an interesting top nine. After this draft, focus on drafting defensemen, and convert a forward prospect or two into more defensemen.

If all of those guys hit their potential and we actually get Stamkos + Matthews, that's as good a top 6 as any in the league.

(Brackets would be their peak potential)

Matthews (Kopitar)
Stamkos
Nylander (Backstrom)
Marner (Kane)
JVR
Kadri

That's filthy. You can win cups with that top 6 if they all develop well.

Defencemen will have to be selected. Rielly should turn into a #1, but who comes after him? We should draft a dman with that Pitts pick.

Also, hopefully get another dman in 2017.

Not to mention trades and free agents.

The team would be fantastic in 2-3 years time since Stamkos is still young.
 

gabeliscious

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Heyman is more likely to get a 100 point season with the leafs then Stamkos signing here

cant we at least dream? until he signs in tampa please dont be a party pooper.

the 100th year will bring good things...

jvr stamkos marner
matthews nylander lupul
komorov bozak leivo
shoshnikov goat winnik

gardiner phaneuf
rielly zaitsev
hunwick percy

reimer
 

Dough72

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signing him would be a risk, but it's also a risk not signing him and spending most of the next decade kicking ourselves

personally I will livid, and I am not even sure what that word means exactly, if we find out Stamkos was willing to come here and instead they said "no thank you Steve, we know you scored 60 not long ago, but you might end up overpaid a couple mil a season and we got big plans for that money. BIG plans. There are a couple 3rd liners we got our eye on"
 

Eb

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Phaneuf trading helps us so much acquiring Stamkos.

Phaneuf is largely disliked around the league. Wouldn't be surprised if Stamkos hates him as well.
 

mashedpotato

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Phaneuf trading helps us so much acquiring Stamkos.

Phaneuf is largely disliked around the league. Wouldn't be surprised if Stamkos hates him as well.

'not just around the league - the fan base pretty much hates him too.
 

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lol people are going crazy.


Yes I think this increases chances of getting Stamkos as we now have 7 million added in cap space in a year and half (all the contracts expire that we brought in)


I don't see us now backing the truck up to Stamkos house... I still think 9.5-10.5 million is the range... not 12 million.


I would offer him 7 year 70 million

year 1: 13 million
year 2: 13 million
year 3: 13 million
year 4: 10 million
year 5: 8 million
year 6: 7 million
year 7: 6 million
 

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One thing worth remembering is Phaneuf and Stamkos are both represented by Newport Sports. This could be their way of helping facilitate their clients needs and ensure the Leafs have a healthy cap situation to go and bring Stamkos in.
 

WTFMAN99

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lol people are going crazy.


Yes I think this increases chances of getting Stamkos as we now have 7 million added in cap space in a year and half (all the contracts expire that we brought in)


I don't see us now backing the truck up to Stamkos house... I still think 9.5-10.5 million is the range... not 12 million.


I would offer him 7 year 70 million

year 1: 13 million
year 2: 13 million
year 3: 13 million
year 4: 10 million
year 5: 8 million
year 6: 7 million
year 7: 6 million


Your year 7 would need to be 6.5 million

The lowest dollar figure over the course of the contract needs to be at least half the highest dollar year.
 

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I'm not certain about the effect the Phaneuf trade will have on the possibility of Stammer coming here. The Leafs have more cap space, but now also have a d core that is paper thin in terms of proven NHL talent. If Stamkos wants to be on a team thats going to win in the near term, the Leafs may have just become less attractive.
 

kk87

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If we can move Phanuef then we go for it, but what teams would take him for 7M at this point?


Also, 2021 is 5 years away, we have Kadri and Rielly to pay for in the next little while, which should cost probably a combined 10-11M. Nylander won't need a new contract until 2019-2020 and Phanuef would be much easier to move at that point with an actual salary of 3.5M. I don't think we will have to worry about the cap.

BRB, eating my hat.

This is too good :laugh:
 
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