Will Leafs Pursue Stamkos? Part 2

[Mad Brills*]

Fancey: Stamkos won't be coming to the leafs this season

http://theleafsnation.com/2016/2/2/stamkos-definitely-won-t-be-coming-to-the-leafs-this-season

 

[Kelly]

He doesn't really raise any good points, he just guesses while noting in his first paragraph that he had guessed that Babcock wouldn't be coaching the Leafs too -- so he's 0/1.

Obviously we won't be trading for him, and I doubt he gets traded anyway. Stamkos will hit UFA and I think we have just as good of chance of signing Stamkos as any other team in the league.

 

[Stephen]

He says the Leafs won't be trading for him this season, which makes perfect sense. It shouldn't happen.

 

[hfman]

who is Ryan Fancey in the first place

 

[666]

He says the Leafs won't be trading for him this season, which makes perfect sense. It shouldn't happen.

/thread

 

[SprDaVE]

Am I reading this wrong or is he just saying that the Leafs won't trade for Stamkos? No mention of the Leafs signing him and what not.

Erik Erlendsson, who's been following 'Stammergeddon' closely in Tampa, recently speculated on which teams might be on the other side of the phone if Yzerman wants to make a move, and the Leafs are on that list. But as he notes, even more so than the other teams mentioned, they're an unlikely trade partner.

It's just difficult to imagine the Leafs having too much of a sense of urgency here, and to make things even more mismatched, the Lightning have somewhat surged in the standings. Armed with a no-movement clause, there's basically no chance Stamkos gives up another Cup run - perhaps his last in Tampa - to go to Toronto and hang out in the league basement for the remainder of the schedule.

An opinionated piece from a blogger about Stamkos not being traded to the Leafs pre-dead line, hench the "...this season."

Yaaawn. Fairly clickbaity article from TLN. Awful article.

 

[TorontoTrades]

I think zero people think he'll be traded.. and even less that the Leafs would even try to trade for him..

 

[Rude Dog]

Raise your hand if you thought for a minute that the Leafs would be trading young assets or picks for Stamkos. What a waste of an article. Based on what is being reported, it still looks like Stamkos stays in TB. But man do I hope they are wrong.

With a little luck, the Leafs could go from having no first line centers to two franchise type centers in 6 months (Stamkos & Mathews). They already of have plenty of skill coming up on the wing. They could then just focus all their attention moving fwd on D and a goalie.

 

[Eb]

Click bait!

 

[mashedpotato]

Yeah trading assets for a free agent you can just acquire with cash makes no sense.

Thanks tips....

 

[deletethis]

Only Tampa knows how things are going with the negotiations. The public announcement of Tampa's contract offer is usually the type of signal that the NHL team either wants the contract completed or have an opportunity to trade the player for something. The Leafs seem an unlikely destination at the trade deadline because the last thing they need to do is start spending future assets at the start of a rebuild. In the offense starved NHL a rental of Stamkos for a single playoff run has to have some major allure.

 

[Erndog]

What POS article.

There's no substance to it. It's exactly what everyone's already resigned too. The Leafs won't be trading for Stamkos in the next 28 days. Whoopdie friggin doo. Everyone knows this.

Garbage piece not even worth talking about.

 

[ACC1224]

Garbage

 

[Stephen]

I'm expecting the Stamkos situation to resolve itself like Babcock, Vanek, Parise and Suter. Long rumored departures/arrivals, big song and dance about staying and then July 1.

 

[yubbers]

obvious article is obvious

 

[Mess]

Something Leaf fans should consider.

Nathan Horton has a $5.3 mil cap hit and is also on LTIR. That means that if the Leafs sign Stamkos for $10 mil that they can exceed the upper cap ceiling by the Horton LTIR amount ($5.3 mil).

So that really means a $10 mil cap hit is essentially a $5 mil cap hit when you use the Cap overage as the other $5 mil.

 

[Daisy Jane]

 

[Reddaye]

I clicked. I admit it.

 

[LordKmus]

You forgot to mention the M. St. Louis factor as well as the drop in Ice time.

This is a huge factor. Trigger man lost his elite level set up man. Ovie has historically had the same issue when Backstrom has been hurt. Leafs don't have a playmaker of such caliber, but after watching Nylander in almost every home game last season and this, I'd like to see what he could do with Stammer in a year or two. #amancandream

 

[Fogelhund]

Somehow I don't see Nylander as being the guy to match with Stamkos... I think Marner and even Bracco would be better. Bracco has been a pretty elite level setup guy at times in his career. Not that I want Stamkos... I don't really want to spend $10M plus... but...

 

[LordKmus]

Somehow I don't see Nylander as being the guy to match with Stamkos... I think Marner and even Bracco would be better. Bracco has been a pretty elite level setup guy at times in his career. Not that I want Stamkos... I don't really want to spend $10M plus... but...

I agree with you, to an extent. I just wonder if they'd want to ease Nylander in at wing or just put him in a 2nd or 3rd line C role. I do however think Nylander has much more potential than we've seen so far. Ideally a left handed shot would be nice as he could post up on his off wing and feed Stamkos with cross ice 1 timers. 10M is steep for sure. I honestly can't see Lou and Shanny going over 9AAV. The point that Mess brought up is interesting though.

 

[Daisy Jane]

I clicked. I admit it.

it's okay sweetie. we all did.

 

[LeafsMonster]

Leafs aren't going to trade any future pieces away for him and tampa won't let him go for free. This move just doesn't make any sense.

 

[Fogelhund]

Something Leaf fans should consider.

Nathan Horton has a $5.3 mil cap hit and is also on LTIR. That means that if the Leafs sign Stamkos for $10 mil that they can exceed the upper cap ceiling by the Horton LTIR amount ($5.3 mil).

So that really means a $10 mil cap hit is essentially a $5 mil cap hit when you use the Cap overage as the other $5 mil.

I don't understand this logic. The Cap hit is still $10MIL... not $5 Mil..

We can use that overage for anyone, or any multiple of players.... we still have the same available cap space with, or without Stamkos... just Stamkos would take $10 M of it.

 

[Mess]

I don't understand this logic. The Cap hit is still $10MIL... not $5 Mil..

We can use that overage for anyone, or any multiple of players.... we still have the same available cap space with, or without Stamkos... just Stamkos would take $10 M of it.

The cap hit is $10 mil but the Leafs cap due to Horton's injury is +$5.3 mil more then the hard cap ceiling.

So you don't have to fit the entire $10 mil below the hard ceiling for all intents and purposes, for those that believe that the Leafs can't be competitive with a $10 mil player. It doesn't matter if you apply that LTIR to Stamkos or use it on other player(s) Leafs have an additional +$5 mil more cap space.