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BastardGosh, what’s this guy talking about?
Prospect Info: Wild Prospect Thread 2023-2024
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Interesting new info on Yurov contract negotiations from Russo. Seems like he believes the lack of extra bonuses could have been a deciding factor for Yurov to stay in Russia:
www.nytimes.com
Wild mailbag: What we're hearing about Rossi, Gustavsson, free-agent targets and more ahead of the draft
Also, the latest on Brock Faber and Jake Middleton extensions, Marcus Foligno and Jared Spurgeon injuries, and the Bally Sports North saga.
www.nytimes.com
BagHead
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Yeah, I'm not quite sure what to think of that. Is that the Wild being too rigid in negotiations, or are they so concerned about this year's cap space that they're making a top prospect wait a year?Interesting new info on Yurov contract negotiations from Russo. Seems like he believes the lack of extra bonuses could have been a deciding factor for Yurov to stay in Russia:
Wild mailbag: What we're hearing about Rossi, Gustavsson, free-agent targets and more ahead of the draft
Also, the latest on Brock Faber and Jake Middleton extensions, Marcus Foligno and Jared Spurgeon injuries, and the Bally Sports North saga.
If it's the latter, it makes me wonder if their real plan is to accrue lots of space through the year and make a huge splash in a trade. If it's the former, I'm not sure why they wouldn't want a young potential middle-six guy instead of an old middle-six guy? Maybe they're just concerned about possibly having 3-5 rookies on the team at once (Ohgren, Khusnutdinov, Yurov, Heidt, Hunt). That would be a valid concern.
Whatever the cause, it's certainly interesting.
Dr Jan Itor
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Or none of that.
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Of course. But if they don't want to play for this org, just say so and don't make ridiculous demands.
Getting sick of it.
Dr Jan Itor
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It's not a ridiculous demand to maximize your earnings if you come over and have an elite rookie season. It's not his fault we have buyout penalty issues.
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BagHead
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"There are only two types of investors, those who can't time the market (predict the future), and those who don't know they can't time the market." -Terry Smith
I'm not prepared to predict the future of a player, no matter how skilled they are, who plays a contact sport. Crazy stuff happens and many careers have been cut short by injury or other events. I don't blame Yurov for wanting to maximize his profits as early as possible, I'd do the same. You've gotta protect yourself. If you want to be generous, do it on the backend of your career.
That was actually mentioned previously, before his KHL contract was finalized, it was just the political justification for staying another year IMO. If he really wanted to leave the KHL, that would not have been a difference maker. The bonuses are unobtainable to the point that if they ever were attained, that player is getting set for life money anyway and likely endorsements to exceed the difference in the meantime.
Faber did not take any bonuses, there is already an existing precedent on this team for it, as everyone should be aware, this organization needs as much cap flexibility as possible to compete.
Faber did not take any bonuses, there is already an existing precedent on this team for it, as everyone should be aware, this organization needs as much cap flexibility as possible to compete.
Here's the thing; right around when Guerin was signed as GM, he was having trouble negotiating contracts. One of the biggest sticklers was that he didn't want to give up a signing bonus because Leipold doesn't want to do signing bonuses. I think it was Kaprizov that he was having trouble with signing.
I think Minnesota is one of the only teams that doesn't give out signing bonuses - well, they gave out I think one?
Furthermore, can't blame a player for trying to maximize their profits. Play on a 3 year contract for 866K or 925K - blow out your knee, can't really play anymore and that's it.
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We're not talking about Yurov demanding free money just for coming over, look at the B bonuses that he's asking for, he has to work for these
I would be more than okay with giving him that money if he achieves those feats. That would put him on Kaprizov's level or above.
The B bonuses no longer make sense for most situations, the NHL changed how they are accounted for, what three seasons ago? Giving B bonuses now has to be accounted for in the same season, they are almost impossible to achieve, but add $2MM to the total Cap hit for that player, whether they achieve the bonuses or not. The NHL gives a small percentage of overage availability for all bonuses, but not worth blowing a third of that overage space on a single ELC rookie hoping to be a top 10 player in the league.
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Dr Jan Itor
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With Yurov coming over, that would be 13 forwards with Lettieri in the pressbox. We have 6 defensemen with Chisholm to sign (cheap) and something like $6.2M in cap space.
I don't see the issue with the B bonuses, unless Guerin would rather have a $4-$5M free agent forward than Yurov on the roster.
I don't see the issue with the B bonuses, unless Guerin would rather have a $4-$5M free agent forward than Yurov on the roster.
MuckOG
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What's wrong with keeping both of them?
