Prospect Info: Wild Prospect Thread 2022-23

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Wallstedt been amazing, that clear he had on the PK was something I have never seen before, one handed from the butterfly and he airmails the zone with enough force to make it to the Czech zone. Didn’t know that kind of leverage and force was possible.
 
Spacek playing really well at the end, about as good as you can do but can’t get one to go for the Czechs. The Swedes should just give all of their medals to Wallstedt.
 
Sweden wins. Wallstedt great performance. After Czechia pulled goalie, Spacek had some good offensive plays. Two attempted shots and one great cross ice pass to Kulich but Kulich fanned.
 
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Zellweger is one of the best defensemen and McTavish is the MVP. Why isn't Anaheim better than Minnesota again?
 
Zellweger is one of the best defensemen and McTavish is the MVP. Why isn't Anaheim better than Minnesota again?

I'm guessing because a couple of players playing well in a short random pop-up tournament in the middle of August isn't the only factor that goes into deciding that.
McTavish is their #1 prospect, Zellwenger is #3.

Our #1 (Rossi) and #3 (Yurov) didn't play in the tourney. Almost impossible to compare.-
 
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while the wjc didn't go as well for wild prospects as i would have liked i still believe in judd and the future (after cap hell) looks so bright im already wearing shades!
 
McTavish is their #1 prospect, Zellwenger is #3.

Our #1 (Rossi) and #3 (Yurov) didn't play in the tourney. Almost impossible to compare.-
Not really, you look at depth and prospects.

McTavish has been on a tear.

Zellwenger is showing more offense than Faber, Faber maybe a bit better defensively.

But you look at overall depth as well as the players. Anaheim is up there with Minnesota and maybe better.
 
Not really, you look at depth and prospects.

McTavish has been on a tear.

Zellwenger is showing more offense than Faber, Faber maybe a bit better defensively.

But you look at overall depth as well as the players. Anaheim is up there with Minnesota and maybe better.
Just because they were in the same tournament means we need to compare them? take the top 5 prospects in each organization and compare them. is Faber even on that list then?
 
Just because they were in the same tournament means we need to compare them? take the top 5 prospects in each organization and compare them. is Faber even on that list then?

Rossi
Wallstedt
Yurov
Faber
Lambos

Vs

McTavish
Perrault
Zellweger
Dostal
Mintyakov
 

D Carson Lambos (Minnesota Wild): Needed to be a little harder at times in the opener and that one poor performance was enough to lose him his job to Del Mastro, who never gave it back.

D Ryan O’Rourke (Minnesota Wild): Didn’t play much and didn’t notice him much!
D David Spacek (Minnesota Wild): Counted upon. Physical. Steadying presence defensively on the blue line. Caught my eye that way.
F Servac Petrovsky (Minnesota Wild): Good speed. Rounds corners tight and fast. Driven. Applies pressure. Usually F1 on the forecheck. Plays with pace. I thought he was their most consistent forward, so it was nice to see him named on of the team’s top three players of the tournament. He finished with three points and a team-high 14 shots on goal in four games.
D Brock Faber (Minnesota Wild): Did his thing. Quick, balanced footwork. Active stick. Perfect timing in the neutral zone. Heady escapes. Smart atop the zone offensively. When he wasn’t out there with Hughes (or when he was but Hughes was playing hurt), he played a much more active game in transition and inside the offensive zone and looked comfortable doing it (would like to see him play a little freer, period). USA outscored the opposition 10-0 at 5-on-5 with Faber on the ice in the tournament, and that’s exactly what he does.
D Jack Peart (Minnesota Wild): After an up-and-down opener led to a scratch in USA’s second game, Peart came back in and was OK in the second half of the tournament playing a limited role at 5-on-5 and PP2 duty.
F Liam Ohgren (Minnesota Wild): I thought Ohgren played well considering he was a late add to the team and played limited minutes. He was skating well and that’s important for him. He had a few nice moments attacking in control and leading rushes. Liked the effort level he played with.
Jesper Wallstedt (Minnesota Wild): So calm. Just seems to stare down shooters and read them. Makes it look easy and takes everything in the chest. Covers the bottom of the net so well and doesn’t seem to get beat along the ice. Wallstedt was Wallstedt: a puck-stopping robot.
 
i know theres room for doubt but rossi did score 120 points in jr and he could be the next zuccarello. or even better!
I'm hoping for better than a career 60pt player bry the age of 34, i'm hoping for 50-60pts as soon as this year, and a peak of higher before his 30s.
 
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But I just compared them.

Except you don't give any rational on the explanation;

McTavish was ranked 7th overall this past spring in TSN's prospect rankings and he has done nothing to show that he isn't at least a top 5 prospect in the world. And while WJC doesn't really break a prospect, it can certainly elevate them. We saw that with Granlund, when he leapt up to the best prospect in the world after his season and his WJC. There is a certain concern that McTavish could topple like Granlund and be a decent top 6 forward, but he captained the Canadians to a gold and had a pretty good conclusion to his season.

Rossi had a good season in the AHL, but a lot of experts are wanting more from a prospect that was debated as the second best prospect behind Laf in his draft year. Not saying it was his fault, but Covid took away Rossi's D+1 year and unfortunately injuries do happen to good prospects. There is a lot of skepticism, especially since Rossi's year ended in yet another injury that may or may not be Covid related. Rossi was rated 17th overall as a prospect in TSN's rankings.

You could argue that McTavish >> Rossi is pushing it, but McTavish at this point in his young career is showing he's ahead of Rossi.

So, McTavish > Rossi

Wallstedt vs Dostal isn't even close, so I agree with Dostal << Wallstedt.

Zellweger is definitely >> Lambos. Like McTavish, Zellweger had his moments in this past WJC. A lot of Anaheim fans think he's underrated as a prospect as well and there hasn't been a lot of talk about him when talking about good defensemen. TSN took notice and ranked him 24th overall in their listing. Lambos isn't even ranked and had not only a poor WJC, but I'd say a pretty mediocre season in the WHL. Zellweger is also younger than Lambos and posted 78 points compared to Lambos 47. Lambos is actually pretty disappointing for a player that was once ranked in the top 5/10 of his draft class.

Then you have:

Mintyukov and Faber. The problem in comparing these two is two fold: Faber is significantly ahead of Mintyukov due to their draft years (Faber in 2019, Minty in 2022) and they play two different styles of play. That's like trying to compare Brodin with Fox. As well, Faber is ahead of his development compared to Minty as they are 3 years a part in age. Faber makes more sense for Minnesota as they want their defensemen to concentrate on defense and not on offense, but Mintyukov makes more sense in the NHL where you have mobile and quick attacking defensemen that can score. The issue is Faber has a high floor, but a low ceiling in terms of point production, but Mintyukov has a higher ceiling in terms of point production and a much lower floor. If you're looking for a guy that you know you can insert in the top 4, but don't get a lot of production out of him then go with Faber. If you want a guy that could provide offense on the back end, you go with Mintyukov. Can't go wrong with either.

And then you have Perrault and Yurov. A similar situation between Faber and Mintyukov here. Perrault is developmentally further ahead of Yurov. Yurov hasn't even cracked the KHL, but he has put up some good numbers in the MHL. Also there is that tricky business of being in Russia and the uncertainty of that. Perrault is already in the AHL and put up decent numbers in the AHL - not great, but not terrible for a first year guy. He's considered a sniper and should be a goal scorer in the NHL. Maybe mid-6 guy? Ducks seem high on him. Yurov has a higher ceiling than Perrault, but a lower floor than him (until he signs, I'm wary of any Russian prospects). So, the question is do you guy with the guy that is over and producing in the AHL or do you go with a guy that may not come over to the NHL due to politics or is hard to project at the moment? For me, I'd take Yurov, for others they would take Perrault.

So:

McTavish > Rossi
Dostal << Wallstedt
Zellweger >> Lambos
Mintyukov = Faber
Perrault = Yurov
 
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Not really, you look at depth and prospects.

McTavish has been on a tear.

Zellwenger is showing more offense than Faber, Faber maybe a bit better defensively.

But you look at overall depth as well as the players. Anaheim is up there with Minnesota and maybe better.
I'm 100% with you to say Anaheim is up there and maybe better. But won't be with you to say or imply Anaheim is clearly better. My apologies if I interpreted that incorrectly.

Prospects and evaluations are highly subjective so when comparing the #1 team vs a #4 team, its difference IMO becomes insignificant and its all about being open minded to others. Now, if someone said a team like the Canucks had a better prospect pool, we would have an issue :P
 
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I'm 100% with you to say Anaheim is up there and maybe better. But won't be with you to say or imply Anaheim is clearly better. My apologies if I interpreted that incorrectly.

Prospects and evaluations are highly subjective so when comparing the #1 team vs a #4 team, its difference IMO becomes insignificant and its all about being open minded to others. Now, if someone said a team like the Canucks had a better prospect pool, we would have an issue :P
Absolutely. We are talking about kids essentially and their development. There is a lot of factors that go into that.

Minnesota had one of the best pools back in the early 2010s and what did that get them? Because they couldn't develop them into the talents that they had them ranked, Minnesota was a huge disappointment. Could happen again.

Being 2nd or 3rd in depth in the long run isn't a big deal. Being 20th vs 2nd though is.
 
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