Rumor: Wild and Senators (Fiala)

[BuiumSaveUs]

I think there’s something there. Ottawa needs to compete sooner rather than later and he’s still young. Only 25. Will probably end this seaosn around 75 points.

 

[Joseph Nathan]

Minnesota will try to compete next year, no? Brown is a good 1yr rental and could probably be flipped for a 1st or more if they don't want him.

I could see Ottawa or another team paying more, but Brown, JBD/equivalent prospect and 1st + 3rd/2nd +2nd isn't a horrible offer for a guy who would likely be a 1yr "self-rental" for Minnesota otherwise.

But keeping fiala on 1 year would be better as he has more value. I am sure many more teams would be interested such as Buffalo and give a better package. Also connor is in his early 30's , and not as good fiala is

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I'd do 1st in 2022 (unless it is a top 5 pick then top 10 protected in 2023) + 2nd + JBD.

 

[KevinRedkey]

I can think of a handful of teams that shouldn't trade a top 10 protected 1st so far out from the 23 draft, and Ottawa is one of them.

Does Ottawa really need more magic beans though?

Unless it's a top 5 pick, I don't care about the pick.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I'd do 1st in 2022 (unless it is a top 5 pick then top 10 protected in 2023) + 2nd + JBD.

Not sure JBD moves the needle much for us. Not saying a direct swap in, but it would be nice to maybe work Pinto into it instead.

Ottawa probably wouldn't do 1st + 2nd + Pinto, but maybe the first two items can be adjusted.

 

[AKL]

Not sure JBD moves the needle much for us. Not saying a direct swap in, but it would be nice to maybe work Pinto into it instead.

Ottawa probably wouldn't do 1st + 2nd + Pinto, but maybe the first two items can be adjusted.

Good luck

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Does Ottawa really need more magic beans though?

Unless it's a top 5 pick, I don't care about the pick.

You want to continue to have talent pumping through the system.
Whether you like it or not, Ottawa’s 2021 draft has been bad and probably set Ottawa back a year. It’s imperative for a team like Ottawa to have their first round picks since it’s difficult to attract talent.

 

[AKL]

You want to continue to have talent pumping through the system.
Whether you like it or not, Ottawa’s 2021 draft has been bad and probably set Ottawa back a year. It’s imperative for a team like Ottawa to have their first round picks since it’s difficult to attract talent.

But if you have talent like Fiala locked up long term you can probably forego the draft pick one year.

 

[General Disarray]

1st + for Fiala is fair but Ottawas 1st is too high.

 

[Akrapovince]

Brown+JBD+1st+3rd is fine. The contentious part is that you have some people who want to make it Brown+JBD+2nd, and that's not fine.

We should have traded Brown at this years deadline to increase his value and accrue more assets to acquire Fiala.

Brown as a rental with a year remaining could possibly net us a first round pick and a b-level prospect.

I know that’s the value for Fiala but man that’s essentially like trading almost three first round picks for him. And one of those first round picks could be rather high.

2023/2024 Ottawa first round pick
Brown which is worth a first round pick
JBD + 3rd and you’re looking at almost 3 first round pick of value

Is it a deal breaker for you if the first round pick was a playoff team instead of Ottawa’s?

I would move Brown to get a first round pick, keep ours and make up for the value with other assets.

Example:

To Edmonton:
Brown

To Minny:
Edmonton 1st round pick
Ottawa 2nd round pick
Samurai/Lavoie
Greig

To Ottawa:
Fiala

Something like that

 

[AKL]

We should have traded Brown at this years deadline to increase his value and accrue more assets to acquire Fiala.

Brown as a rental with a year remaining could possibly net us a first round pick and a b-level prospect.

I know that’s the value for Fiala but man that’s essentially like trading almost three first round picks for him. And one of those first round picks could be rather high.

2023/2024 Ottawa first round pick
Brown which is worth a first round pick
JBD + 3rd and you’re looking at almost 3 first round pick of value

Is it a deal breaker for you if the first round pick was a playoff team instead of Ottawa’s?

I would move Brown to get a first round pick, keep ours and make up for the value with other assets.

Example:

To Edmonton:
Brown

To Minny:
Edmonton 1st round pick
Ottawa 2nd round pick
Samurai/Lavoie
Greig

To Ottawa:
Fiala

Something like that

I would do that deal.

 

[Akrapovince]

I would do that deal.

Okay, so not getting a cheap roster player isn’t a deal breaker for you?

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Brutal offer. Take off the homer glasses. Every team in the league beats that bottom offer

You better go get that 1st, because this is not adequate. A 2nd and Ottawa's third tier prospects aren't gonna get it done.

No, the offer is bad.

Yall realize that Connor Brown has been on pace for 60 points last 2 seasons and with better defensive game and crazy leadership right? For only ~3 mil. Only reason we trading him is we won't be able to afford his next contract.

In fact, Brown outscored Fiala in goals last year. A 2nd and a B/B+ prospect is more than enough to bridge the gap.

If you don't want Brown, that's fine. We can trade him for a 1st and 2nd and then trade that package +another 2nd +that prospect for Fiala, which is deal you might not get elsewhere+cap relief.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Yall realize that Connor Brown has been on pace for 60 points last 2 seasons and with better defensive game and crazy leadership right? For only ~3 mil. Only reason we trading him is we won't be able to afford his next contract.

In fact, Brown outscored Fiala in goals last year. A 2nd and a B/B+ prospect is more than enough to bridge the gap.

If you don't want Brown, that's fine. We can trade him for a 1st and 2nd and then trade that package +another 2nd +that prospect for Fiala, which is deal you might not get elsewhere+cap relief.

Which is also the case for us not trading for him. We wouldn't be able to afford it even more.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Yall realize that Connor Brown has been on pace for 60 points last 2 seasons and with better defensive game and crazy leadership right? For only ~3 mil. Only reason we trading him is we won't be able to afford his next contract.

In fact, Brown outscored Fiala in goals last year. A 2nd and a B/B+ prospect is more than enough to bridge the gap.

If you don't want Brown, that's fine. We can trade him for a 1st and 2nd and then trade that package +another 2nd +that prospect for Fiala, which is deal you might not get elsewhere+cap relief.

How about you keep Brown then? I think Wild fans are only entertaining the idea of Ottawa's 1st round pick, which doesn't seem to be what you are offering.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

We should have traded Brown at this years deadline to increase his value and accrue more assets to acquire Fiala.

Brown as a rental with a year remaining could possibly net us a first round pick and a b-level prospect.

I know that’s the value for Fiala but man that’s essentially like trading almost three first round picks for him. And one of those first round picks could be rather high.

2023/2024 Ottawa first round pick
Brown which is worth a first round pick
JBD + 3rd and you’re looking at almost 3 first round pick of value

Is it a deal breaker for you if the first round pick was a playoff team instead of Ottawa’s?

I would move Brown to get a first round pick, keep ours and make up for the value with other assets.

Example:

To Edmonton:
Brown

To Minny:
Edmonton 1st round pick
Ottawa 2nd round pick
Samurai/Lavoie
Greig

To Ottawa:
Fiala

Something like that

We absolutely are not trading Greig AND Brown for Fiala. Including our 2nd which is basically a 1st rounder by a contending team. That's absurd.

Edm:
Connor Brown

Ottawa:
Fiala

Minnie:
1st EDM
Ottawa 2nd
JBD/Sokolov/Jarventie
2nd EDM

 

[AKL]

Okay, so not getting a cheap roster player isn’t a deal breaker for you?

Not to me, no. Brown would certainly have value to Minnesota next year, but it would be for his contribution on the ice, not what he could return in a trade. So when you say you don't wanna add a lot to Brown because in theory he's already worth a 1st+prospect, that doesn't mean anything to me because we'd value him for his play.

So if my options are between Brown+2nd+JBD or EDM 1s+OTT 2nd+Greig+Lavoie/Samorukov, I would take the latter every time. The 1st is almost imperative in the deal, Greig is a nice addition down the road, and I like Lavoie/Samorukov more than JBD anyway.

 

[Akrapovince]

We absolutely are not trading Greig AND Brown for Fiala. Including our 2nd which is basically a 1st rounder by a contending team. That's absurd.

Edm:
Connor Brown

Ottawa:
Fiala

Minnie:
1st EDM
Ottawa 2nd
JBD/Sokolov/Jarventie
2nd EDM

Yeah like I said in my post northwards of three first round picks seemed like a lot, but just didn’t want to sound like a homer.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Yeah like I said in my post northwards of three first round picks seemed like a lot, but just didn’t want to sound like a homer.

Your offer is essential what Vegas traded for freaking Eichel. Let alone a guy who's highest pace total has been around 70 points, lmao. No need to be a homer; you were no where close.

 

[AKL]

Edm:
Connor Brown

Ottawa:
Fiala

Minnie:
1st EDM
Ottawa 2nd
JBD/Sokolov/Jarventie
2nd EDM

This would also be good by me.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

This would also be good by me.

Yup, it's really a great trade for all involved.

 

[Akrapovince]

Your offer is essential what Vegas traded for freaking Eichel. Let alone a guy who's highest pace total has been around 70 points, lmao. No need to be a homer; you were no where close.

I think the basis of the trade makes sense, Brown immediately steps in and becomes Edmonton’s most productive RW that can play anywhere.

Ottawa keeps their first round pick and blue chip prospects.

Minny gets a nice little haul.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Yup, it's really a great trade for all involved.

Would be really dumb for Edmonton to trade a 1st+2nd for Brown.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Would be really dumb for Edmonton to trade a 1st+2nd for Brown.

Connor Brown is exactly who they need. A high character guy who plays strong 2 way game among lead leaders in icetime in the league and can score 60 points for only 3.5 mil. He's a better Zach Hyman and would give Edmonton more of what they really lack: high character 2 way guys who can play in their top 6 and produce.

You literally just said in your previous post that Wild fans will only entertain trading Fiala for our 1st, a guy who's been pacing 65-70 points, yet it's dumb if EDM does same thing to a stronger 2 way guy with leadership qualities and can likely score 60+ with better linemates.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Connor Brown is exactly who they need. A high character guy who plays strong 2 way game among lead leaders in icetime in the league and can score 60 points for only 3.5 mil. He's a better Zach Hyman and would give Edmonton more of what they really lack: high character 2 way guys who can play in their top 6 and produce.

Ha, for one year. Remember the reason you're trading Brown? Zero shot Edmonton is in a better cap position than Ottawa to re-sign Brown.