Why was the Sharks broadcast team so upset Kadri wouldn’t fight last night?

[Quid Pro Clowe]

I think he's living rent free in a lot of heads based on this thread. I love it!

Why did you quote me.

 

[BayStreetBully]

I said I am not saying they were right, but I felt like that is what was going on there. They didn't like the totality of the event last year involving Kadri.

He is a teammate you will defend like that though if you think something has gone wrong. It is all the perception you are taking into it.

I agree though Thornton has spent far too much of his career as that rough player. For instance what if Kadri did the same thing to say Iginla late in his career. You would expect Iginla to respond the first time like Thornton but maybe the team thinks they want to pound the message in. They didn't do a very good job of it. But I think it is worth noting that this has more of a hey don't touch my star like that. Because Kadri is a 1st rounder that plays top 6 minutes and a good player he might rightfully in his mind believe he can do that. It would appear the Sharks disagreed, we shall see, seemed like a lot of wasted energy, just saying I could see a rational beyond just the beard pull is all.

Agreed.

Off topic, but your post reminds me of when Brad Ference kept taking abuse from Mario Lemieux because he couldn’t fight back against a legend. There was something very endearing about the way Ference respected Lemieux, like he knew his place. I wish the game had more of those untouchables like Lemieux and Yzerman today.

 

[Cotton]

Yeah considering they were sitting on this for a whole year, it was a pretty poor effort to step up from the Sharks. Some bloke no ones ever heard of and Melker Karlsson.

Last time the Leafs were this scared was the whole Erik Gudbranson threatening to kill people event.

Totes, they played scared all right, score reflected as much.

The irony is more people will know who Melker is now that Kadri punched him than people did before that game. I suppose this is a win for San Jose, getting a bit of spotlight before getting forgotten again.

 

[All Mod Cons]

They were losing after the 1st period. Sharks lost because their new system is dumb and they give up too many breakaways and odd man rushes.

They were too concerned where/if Kadri was on the ice during the 2nd and 3rd periods too. That's why the Leafs had so many breakaways and odd man rushes. Kadri won that game for the stinking Leafs.

 

[ChurchOfMatthews]

Loving the Kadri hate! The tears are delicious. Go Leafs Go!

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Agreed.

Off topic, but your post reminds me of when Brad Ference kept taking abuse from Mario Lemieux because he couldn’t fight back against a legend. There was something very endearing about the way Ference respected Lemieux, like he knew his place. I wish the game had more of those untouchables like Lemieux and Yzerman today.

One of the more famous stories on the great 01-02 team in Detroit is Brett Hull pulling Sean Avery back down on the bench and telling him not to talk to Mr. Sakic like that. There was an interesting part of that, but those guys grew up in an era where the game was a lot more brutal and they were not to be touched. The price for doing it was on display more often and the retaliation on your star was very real. I think it is something that is tough to replicate today with the way the game and players have changed. Keep in mind when looking at those players you're discussing helped take the league though (I understand all of professional sports exploded) as a built the league and my fortune feel there in my opinion.

People are not going to be allowed to take liberties with old Crosby. Marleau is a guy that isn't to be touched around the league. Zetterberg the last few years you could tell guys were not to disrespect him. They exist still, it just has different feel in the game. It isn't changing back in my opinion so we just have to embrace the subtle differences.

 

[Cotton]

It has more to due with the slash and fight on a player the Sharks rightly view as a HHOF that in his 40's shouldn't have to put up with that stuff from Kadri. It's not just the beard pull from last year, though after you did something to draw the ire of a 40 year old HHOF the beard pull doesn't help the telling of that story. The Sharks didn't appreciate Kadri going after Thornton on an opening face off when everyone in the league knew he was kind of beat up last year.

I am not saying they are right. Thornton has a history of fighting right at the hop of the game and wanted that piece of Kadri after the slash but I guess the full event didn't sit well with the Sharks. But the just the beard pull seems to go away from the event where the extremely high and hard chop on the wrist angered the Sharks.

But saying Kadri didn't start that fight last year, he slashed him in a way where guys get wrist bones broken ala the Giroux and Crosby feud. They don't like you intentionally chopping where areas aren't padded and especially not to star players that are well respected. I don't think it is just the beard pull is all, but only the Sharks truly know and they don't seem to be elaborating.

As to the broadcast seemingly in on it. Well they knew the Sharks were going to try to do something, they heard it throughout the day. They are embedded with the team, these guys don't wander into events like this without having heard the chatter from the room and knowing it is likely to unfold on the ice that night.

Watch the footage, Thornton slashed him, Kadri slashed back. You are creating a false narrative.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Why would he have to fight because he fought last season? lol

Thornton wanted to go and has a huge size advantage, and somehow he's a victim in this haha. I would get it it if Kadri hunted down Karlsson and jumped him...

If Thornton was so upset, he should have dropped them himself.

Did I write anything about the Sharks being right ?

You asked a question, and you provided the answer...

LOL ?

"Mirror, mirror..."

 

[rent free]

Watch the footage, Thornton slashed him, Kadri slashed back. You are creating a false narrative.

he won't admit it though

 

[Isaac Nootin]

It has more to due with the slash and fight on a player the Sharks rightly view as a HHOF that in his 40's shouldn't have to put up with that stuff from Kadri. It's not just the beard pull from last year, though after you did something to draw the ire of a 40 year old HHOF the beard pull doesn't help the telling of that story. The Sharks didn't appreciate Kadri going after Thornton on an opening face off when everyone in the league knew he was kind of beat up last year.

I am not saying they are right. Thornton has a history of fighting right at the hop of the game and wanted that piece of Kadri after the slash but I guess the full event didn't sit well with the Sharks. But the just the beard pull seems to go away from the event where the extremely high and hard chop on the wrist angered the Sharks.

But saying Kadri didn't start that fight last year, he slashed him in a way where guys get wrist bones broken ala the Giroux and Crosby feud. They don't like you intentionally chopping where areas aren't padded and especially not to star players that are well respected. I don't think it is just the beard pull is all, but only the Sharks truly know and they don't seem to be elaborating.

As to the broadcast seemingly in on it. Well they knew the Sharks were going to try to do something, they heard it throughout the day. They are embedded with the team, these guys don't wander into events like this without having heard the chatter from the room and knowing it is likely to unfold on the ice that night.

What a joke of a post. Thornton slashed him first and asked for the fight. Get a clue. Don't want none, dont start none.

 

[Dustin]

Kadri's great. He's very important to the success of this team.

 

[TrappedInFullerton]

The first goal was a direct result of SJ stupidly trying to make a point instead of playing the game.

You are trying too hard.

Did you not read what I said? I said the opening faceoff was his biggest contribution. That includes the subsequent PP and lucky bounce goal that followed right as it expired. Jeez...

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Watch the footage, Thornton slashed him, Kadri slashed back. You are creating a false narrative.

Kadri got him right on the wrist with no padding, he went in hot and heavy. His is the slash in that exchange that most players are going to think is across a line. Thornton then wacked him hard on the leg as well. But Kadri did dish out a major league slash before the faceoff fight.

I think again it isn't that Thornton is a guy that brings this out, I am not debating that. What I am saying is an opinion that I think the Sharks are inferring Kadri isn't a player that is allowed to mess around with Thornton.

The Sharks need to realize that down a center Kadri isn't going with Goodrow either so they are being disingenuous as well there in my opinion. If you still had a score to settle you should have challenged him with a Kane or something that was at least a similar caliber player trade. At least that is a part of the code for me where the Sharks even while angry fell woefully short in this event.

 

[TrappedInFullerton]

They were losing after the 1st period. Sharks lost because their new system is dumb and they give up too many breakaways and odd man rushes.

It's like people can't comprehend this...

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

What a joke of a post. Thornton slashed him first and asked for the fight. Get a clue. Don't want none, dont start none.

Last night would seem to indicate otherwise. Thornton asked for the fight after the slash on his left wrist. Not all slashes are equal, Kadri's placement on the wrist was easily the most brutal of that exchange in my opinion.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

The idea that Thornton went after Kadri for no reason is supremely laughable last year but it doesn't matter. The coach told a 4th liner to go after someone. It was stupid on DeBoer's part but it wasn't why they lost the game.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

It's like people can't comprehend this...

And most likely are losing much worse if 2 penalties directly related to Kadri didn't lead to 2 Leaf goals.

Comprehension indeed.

 

[I am toxic]

One of the more famous stories on the great 01-02 team in Detroit is Brett Hull pulling Sean Avery back down on the bench and telling him not to talk to Mr. Sakic like that. There was an interesting part of that, but those guys grew up in an era where the game was a lot more brutal and they were not to be touched. The price for doing it was on display more often and the retaliation on your star was very real. I think it is something that is tough to replicate today with the way the game and players have changed. Keep in mind when looking at those players you're discussing helped take the league though (I understand all of professional sports exploded) as a built the league and my fortune feel there in my opinion.

People are not going to be allowed to take liberties with old Crosby. Marleau is a guy that isn't to be touched around the league. Zetterberg the last few years you could tell guys were not to disrespect him. They exist still, it just has different feel in the game. It isn't changing back in my opinion so we just have to embrace the subtle differences.

“You do not get to talk to Mr. Sakic,” Hull said.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

The idea that Thornton went after Kadri for no reason is supremely laughable last year but it doesn't matter. The coach told a 4th liner to go after someone. It was stupid on DeBoer's part but it wasn't why they lost the game.

So Thornton didn't like the outcome of a fight that he instigated between someone 6'4" 220lbs and 6' 192. What a goof. Not surprising the organization follows suit.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Leafs fans are way over blowing this, the only good thing Kadri did was draw a minor on the first shift. Thats it, Kadri got 6 minutes himself in coincidental throughout the game including getting really frustrated at the end, nothing much here

 

[member 298589]

Burns might be the only player on SJ worth Kadri sitting in the box. Could have had more ripped beard drama, too.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Good on Naz to keep his cool last night.
Right from the opening face off he was living the life of Rielly in their collective heads.
Literally turned the game around just by being in the line up.

You simply have to love hyperbole...

 

[Pinkfloyd]

So Thornton didn't like the outcome of a fight that he instigated between someone 6'4" 220lbs and 6' 192. What a goof. Not surprising the organization follows suit.

Thornton didn't instigate that fight and Thornton likely didn't care about yesterday's altercation either.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Get a grip, San Jose.

“I have no idea why they’re so bitter about it, especially when he’s the one who initiated with me,” Kadri said. “It’s not like I went out looking for it. But I knew they’d be pretty agitated from the start and I figured I’d run with that.”

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Thornton didn't instigate that fight and Thornton likely didn't care about yesterday's altercation either.

Keep telling yourself that, lol.

Not to mention if Jumbo didn't care, he can shut down the theatrics in a minute. It was obviously pre meditated, the coach stated as much. Complete scum move. Glad it backfired.