Who would you like as the next GM?

[A1LeafNation]

Treliving: I lost Gaudreau, fkd up the Tkachuk trade, put all my chips in on Markstrom.

If this is the guy I'm gonna flip out.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Treliving: I lost Gaudreau, fkd up the Tkachuk trade, put all my chips in on Markstrom.

If this is the guy I'm gonna flip out.

...and he traded Adam Fox.

 

[TheDoldrums]

 

[Menzinger]

He'd be really intriguing.

However the Toronto GM role would for him actually involve a demotion since he's already a team President as well as GM

 

[GoonieFace]

Treliving: I lost Gaudreau, fkd up the Tkachuk trade, put all my chips in on Markstrom.

If this is the guy I'm gonna flip out.

How did he mess up the Tkachuk trade, he was basically handcuffed and had to trade him to Florida. Fox wasn’t signing there either.

Not saying he’s a good choice, but those are poor examples

 

[daveleaf]

What is this nonsense with Wickenheiser as GM? What a joke.

 

[613Leafer]

How did he mess up the Tkachuk trade, he was basically handcuffed and had to trade him to Florida. Fox wasn’t signing there either.

Not saying he’s a good choice, but those are poor examples

I agree on Fox. Not much you can do if the player plans to walk.

But the Tkachuk trade he screwed up because of what he did with the assets, rather than the trade itself.

If you trade Tkachuk for Huberdeau + Weegar + 1st, and then flip Huberdeau for a package of picks/prospects (and maybe a young NHLer), and then either re-sign Weegar or flip him as well, then that's making the best out of a bad situation and really helping to re-set your franchise.

Instead, he locked up Huberdeau on a big money long-term deal that kicks in when he's 30 years old, and who isn't a good enough player to build a contender around. The Huberdeau, Kadri, Coleman, etc contracts are all going to turn into anchor contracts, and they're not even benefiting from being contenders short term.

Just comes across as a guy with no vision who is only making moves based on the immediate season.

 

[TheDoldrums]

He'd be really intriguing.

However the Toronto GM role would for him actually involve a demotion since he's already a team President as well as GM

Good point. Though I'm definitely fine with firing Shanahan to give Armstrong all the power...

 

[Cor]

Put together as large of a list as I could. Still left an other option.

We have the thread discussing, but would like to the see the poll format of everyone’s preferred option.

 

[GoonieFace]

I agree on Fox. Not much you can do if the player plans to walk.

But the Tkachuk trade he screwed up because of what he did with the assets, rather than the trade itself.

If you trade Tkachuk for Huberdeau + Weegar + 1st, and then flip Huberdeau for a package of picks/prospects (and maybe a young NHLer), and then either re-sign Weegar or flip him as well, then that's making the best out of a bad situation and really helping to re-set your franchise.

Instead, he locked up Huberdeau on a big money long-term deal that kicks in when he's 30 years old, and who isn't a good enough player to build a contender around. The Huberdeau, Kadri, Coleman, etc contracts are all going to turn into anchor contracts, and they're not even benefiting from being contenders short term.

Just comes across as a guy with no vision who is only making moves based on the immediate season.

True to a certain degree, problem is, nobody wants to play in Calgary so you probably get desperate when someone is actually willing to sign there.

 

[hamzarocks]

You basically just described Dubas when he was hired..........

Dubas wasn't involved with the leafs very much mostly just ran the marlies

Had like 3 years experience as the AGM

Also we tried to win with him and failed. He had the chance to come back but wanted more money, mlse didnt want to pay.

Both parties moved on.

 

[Warden of the North]

What is this nonsense with Wickenheiser as GM? What a joke.

I'll take Wickenheiser over Chiarelli, Hextall, Fletcher, Nonis without a 2nd thought. Maybe Treliving.

 

[A1LeafNation]

How did he mess up the Tkachuk trade, he was basically handcuffed and had to trade him to Florida. Fox wasn’t signing there either.

Not saying he’s a good choice, but those are poor examples

The same will be said if he takes over and screws up a Marner trade and Matthews walks.

Oh Matthews was going to walk anyways and Marners contract handcuffed him.

We need a GM who gets shit done when it looks bleak. We are in a bleak spot right now.

 

[Cor]

...and he traded Adam Fox.

To be fair on that one. He had no choice.

 

[hamzarocks]

Tanking
1. Chiarelli
2. Benning
3. Bergervin

Retool/contend still.

Guys like:

Futa, Sean Burke, Mike Gillis, Darch, Tulsky, Treiveling

Are guys i'd be interested in

 

[Warden of the North]

David Poile.

That's my #1 target of the obviously available guys.

 

[notbias]

Dubas wasn't involved with the leafs very much mostly just ran the marlies

Had like 3 years experience as the AGM

Also we tried to win with him and failed. He had the chance to come back but wanted more money, mlse didnt want to pay.

Both parties moved on.

I'm just saying, you want a big change but described a resume similar to Dubas'.

I actually agree with that type of hire, I want Tulsky if he can bring some of what Carolina is doing to Toronto, would actually be excited about the GM switch.

I'm not bad-mouthing the criteria, just that Dubas was a similar hire to what you want.

 

[GoonieFace]

David Poile.

That's my #1 target of the obviously available guys.

Isn’t he like 90?

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Chuck Fletcher couldn't even manage a timmy's

 

[francis246]

...and he traded Adam Fox.

Adam fox wasn’t going to sign with Calgary.. should he have just let him walk for free? That’s the risk you take when you draft college players, they have more autonomy and no one knew Adam Fox was gonna be that good. He was a top prospect no doubt.

 

[GoonieFace]

The same will be said if he takes over and screws up a Marner trade and Matthews walks.

Oh Matthews was going to walk anyways and Marners contract handcuffed him.

We need a GM who gets shit done when it looks bleak. We are in a bleak spot right now.

Well if they both only give him a 1 team option to trade to, what would you expect?

 

[Warden of the North]

Isn’t he like 90?

73.

Let him be GM, give Pridham a few more years as AGM.

And he's substantially better then most of the barf buckets being floated around as candidates.

 

[daveleaf]

I for one am quite happy about all of this. Say what you want, it took him up to the deadline this year to understand the team needed more grit. Made some good moves but too late. He doesn't get it and never will. Skill alone does not win a cup, nor several. He will go elsewhere and do the same thing and have equal or less success. He hired an rookie coach for a team that needed a vet. If the coach called out players he made him retract. We all talked about the blue and white disease and he made it more prevalent than ever. Been kicking around goalies for years. Traded for another goalie that was injured and should have been getting pics thrown in with him but didn't. When Kadri was suspended a series, who did he back? The NHL. I am sick and tired of hearing people bash that player on here, he was a heart and soul player. Pietroangelo two hands one of the best player and what did he get? In my opinion he was underqualified and Shanahan gave him all the rope he needed to be successful but messed up every year. You guys say maybe some of the core walks? Trade them than. These are not players to win you a cup. You need to be uncomfortable to win a cup and these guys never looked uncomfortable.

Time for a new chapter. This will get good now.

 

[The Iceman]

Isn’t he like 90?

73 years old and probably ready for a well deserved reirement.

HOWEVER he is a Toronto guy and maybe the Lou treatment grooming Pridham for 2 years and navigating a very difficult current situation might be of interest.

 

[Cor]

David Poile.

That's my #1 target of the obviously available guys.

Isn’t he the one who made the decision to step back?

Poile has said the Leafs GM job was his dream job though.