I don't want either.Hamilton, Rielly?
At the risk of stating the obvious, Canadians are insane...
If any other country had 12 of the top 20 D-Men in scoring, there'd be threads proclaiming their dominance. Canadians, on the other hand, being the dummies WE are (NOT directed at any one poster), panic and whine we're not doing well enough on the back end.
What is wrong with us?
I don't want either.
I see Reilly 82 times a year and... no.
I am NOT a fan of Hamilton.
THANK YOU. Some rosters on here have Reilly and Hamilton over Morrisey and just no lol. Morrisey is easily Canada’s second best option in terms of offence on the blueline after Makar. He’s also a much better two-way guy than what people give him credit for. A LOT better than Reilly and Hamilton, that’s for sure. Used to kill penalties as well, so he can fill that role for Canada if needed.
He’s been carrying Winnipeg’s blueline for years and I would trust him with the puck in our Zone in a Gold medal game over Reilly and Hamilton any day of the week.
At the risk of stating the obvious, Canadians are insane...
If any other country had 12 of the top 20 D-Men in scoring, there'd be threads proclaiming their dominance. Canadians, on the other hand, being the dummies WE are (NOT directed at any one poster), panic and whine we're not doing well enough on the back end.
What is wrong with us?
I don't want either.
I see Reilly 82 times a year and... no.
I am NOT a fan of Hamilton.
NOTE : This is NOT directed at you Regal. I'm talking about Canadians in general.I get your point, but a lot of those guys aren’t elite defensively, which is the issue. Canada is lacking the Norris level all around defenseman types in their prime that it used to have 3 or 4 of. Still, the defense at worst would be number 3 on paper after the US and Sweden and even then the three are probably pretty close.
NOTE : This is NOT directed at you Regal. I'm talking about Canadians in general.
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A lot of the D-Men on other rosters are not elite defensively. They just pair them up with a defensive defensemen and move on.
You take the top 6 U.S. / Swedish defensemen and put a Canadian jersey on them and Canadian posters would say, “I don’t know. They don’t look very good”. You then take the Top 6 Canadian D-Men and put a U.S. / Swedish jersey on them and Canadians would say, "Man, I wish we had those guys".
Canadians are so insecure it's painful. I wish we had an ounce of the U.S. confidence.
I don't think they are better Top 4.Agreed. The American and Swedish D-cores are marginally better than Canada’s. This is keeping in mind that both those country’s d-men don’t go down with injuries. I think people forget how many good Canadian defencemen there are in the NHL compared to the USA and Sweden. They have certainly tied or bettered Canada in their top 4, but top 6 and depth wise Canada edges them.
I'm still optimistic for Lafrienere, this season has definitely got him trending up, which is where you want it to be. Opinion pre-season was that this is sort of do or die to see what Lafrienere can/will become, and he's playing his best hockey while getting top 6 opportunity, he doesn't even have PP1 time too. Plus the fact he's scoring goals at a good rate is much more encouraging than if his goals and assists were reversed. I think the assists will come too.Byfield with an assist, tonight. He is just under a PPG while averaging only 15 minutes a game. He will be amazing by 2025.
I am back to giving up on LAF.
I agree, 100%. If you subtracted the PP1 time from all the other Top Scorers, they'd be lucky to have is goal numbers.I'm still optimistic for Lafrienere, this season has definitely got him trending up, which is where you want it to be. Opinion pre-season was that this is sort of do or die to see what Lafrienere can/will become, and he's playing his best hockey while getting top 6 opportunity, he doesn't even have PP1 time too. Plus the fact he's scoring goals at a good rate is much more encouraging than if his goals and assists were reversed. I think the assists will come too.
I think for some its the fact the Americans have caught up to and probably passed Canada in terms of depth on the backend, been spoiled for... forever. Its still is a top tier group for sure thoughI don't mean to harp on this but imagine if any other country had these pairings...
Toews-Makar
Theodore-Pietrangelo
Morrissey - Doughty / Dobson
Power
They'd say...
"Look at our D. We have the BEST D-Man in the game in Makar. We have the 4 D-Men that dominated / won the Stanley Cup the last 2 years. We have Doughty who has experience in the Olympics / winning Best on Best, and we have young Power who has all the tools to be GREAT. I LOVE our D."
Instead, Canadians say, "Looks weak. I don't like our chances".
Oy! Only Canadians.
He is inconsistent, tho - hopefully that will go away with time. 7 goals for the Rangers, today, and not a point for LAF.I'm still optimistic for Lafrienere, this season has definitely got him trending up, which is where you want it to be. Opinion pre-season was that this is sort of do or die to see what Lafrienere can/will become, and he's playing his best hockey while getting top 6 opportunity, he doesn't even have PP1 time too. Plus the fact he's scoring goals at a good rate is much more encouraging than if his goals and assists were reversed. I think the assists will come too.
I don't mean to harp on this but imagine if any other country had these pairings...
Toews-Makar
Theodore-Pietrangelo
Morrissey - Doughty / Dobson
Power
They'd say...
"Look at our D. We have the BEST D-Man in the game in Makar. We have the 4 D-Men that dominated / won the Stanley Cup the last 2 years. We have Doughty who has experience in the Olympics / winning Best on Best, and we have young Power who has all the tools to be GREAT. I LOVE our D."
Instead, Canadians say, "Looks weak. I don't like our chances".
Oy! Only Canadians.
its a fantastic d-set, i have usa and u guys as the bestI don't mean to harp on this but imagine if any other country had these pairings...
Toews-Makar
Theodore-Pietrangelo
Morrissey - Doughty / Dobson
Power
They'd say...
"Look at our D. We have the BEST D-Man in the game in Makar. We have the 4 D-Men that dominated / won the Stanley Cup the last 2 years. We have Doughty who has experience in the Olympics / winning Best on Best, and we have young Power who has all the tools to be GREAT. I LOVE our D."
Instead, Canadians say, "Looks weak. I don't like our chances".
Oy! Only Canadians.
We have so many players in the works. Come the 2030 Olympics, I think Canada will be the clear-cut favourite once again.Cole Perfetti is turning into a terrific young players.
We have so many players in the works. Come the 2030 Olympics, I think Canada will be the clear-cut favourite once again.
I don't know what to think about Hyman. He looks great but how much of that is because of his play with McDavid - and does it even matter?McDavid, MacKinnon, Crosby, Marchand, Point, Stone, Stamkos, Marner, Schiefle, Hyman, Tavares, Bedard, Robert Thomas, Reinhart, Benn
Makar, Theodore, Pietrangelo, Toews, Morissey, Doughty, Dobson
Hart-Hill
I don't know what to think about Hyman. He looks great but how much of that is because of his play with McDavid - and does it even matter?
That's fair and they do have chemistry so...Well is there a McDavid on the team? He's also played well with Marner in the past.
And it's good to have players that are a little more grind and hustle and not just all skill but can also play with skilled players. Kunitz made it to Team Canada based on playing with Crosby, Hyman is a better player.