Who would Detroit take at 4?
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I think the average NFL receiver runs faster than Rossi skates.
That's actually an interesting question. How fast does an NHL skater do 40m from a standing start (about 2/3 of an NHL rink)? I have no idea.
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I would think faster but maybe I am wrong. Certainly the shorter distance would help, but you would think a Larkin type gets from his goal line to the other team's blue line extremely fast.
If I ever get super bored I'll look at some old all-star game speed trials and try to math out how fast they are doing the 40m. I'll bet the fastest NFL players are actually pretty close... Maybe?
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That dude is barely human. You've got basically Olympic level track speed blazing out there on a football field.
Pair him with the best QB in the NFL, and surprise, they win the championship.
Let's do Larkin vs. Hill, 1v1!
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Maybe to right about that point, though I have to think the upper echelon skaters are faster and even here I was more thinking 4.4 than Hill. I think your average skater is going to be faster than your average runner. On Hill I would be happy to see someone go Happy Gilmore on him because that dude is a terrible human being.
Keep in mind when we watch fastest skater we make them corner. Remember that straight line footage from opening night where McDavid got to 30 mph in three steps on sportsnet...
That's a good baseline. Hill's top recorded speed was about 23 mph.
I always think it's wild these guys run fast enough to be picked up for speeding in a school zone.
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I don't think a five year block will paint an accurate picture, just thinking of how the team has changed. So, I would look at where they were over the last season instead. The last time I looked into the question, which I think was last season, the Wings were further behind the league average in defense than in offense. However,I don't think Raymond's rookie SHL numbers are easy to compare against those of guys with two OHL seasons. What I assume is that if the three mentioned forwards are pretty close offensively, Raymmond's defensive play gives him the edge.
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If you want to be sold on Cole Perfetti, listen to this (at about 8:10):
#TrackingTheDraft with Craig Button | Episode 4 - Cole Perfetti, Luke Tuch, Martin Chromiak, Time Machine - 3 Time Selke Award winner = Current London Knight
#TrackingTheDraft with Craig Button | Episode 4 - Cole Perfetti, Luke Tuch, Martin Chromiak, Time Machine - 3 Time Selke Award winner = Current London Knight
They trailed league average goals for by a larger margin than they did league average goals against. The defensive shortcomings are hardly from the forwards though; it’s all because of below average defensemen.
Again, if you want to go forward, you almost HAVE to pick a player you can project to be your best offensive player. If you want to address the defense, then actually address defense. Don’t get caught in between.
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"always 2 steps ahead" and that unpredictability is so Datsyukian.
Offensive nightmare to play against. Just like Seider will be defensive nightmare to play against.
That's how I want our Team to be built.
I think if the draft were held tomorrow it wouldn’t be too soon. I’ve wavered from Raymond who’s a perimeter player to Rossi who’s too small and too slow to Perfetti who I have read in a number of places isn’t as good a skater as Rossi. If they are too small then what does that make Drysdale who at some point is going to have to outmuscle players like Rasmussen. There hasn’t been a whole lot of hype lately for Drysdale here despite all the votes he’s getting. I don’t want Sanderson or AskarI’ve at four. Wow. I may be back to Drysdale and hope he grows an inch or two. I’m easily swayed
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I definitely feel the sentiment that the Wings have needs at every position.
But this is my own personal and general priority list:
1. Top-six center
2. Top-six center
3. Top-six center
4. Top-four defenseman (Keep in mind, I don't feel as hopeful as some about our defensemen prospects beyond Seider.)
5. Top-six winger
6. Goalie
But this is my own personal and general priority list:
1. Top-six center
2. Top-six center
3. Top-six center
4. Top-four defenseman (Keep in mind, I don't feel as hopeful as some about our defensemen prospects beyond Seider.)
5. Top-six winger
6. Goalie
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1. Top-six Center = sign Haula and try Fabbri in the middle
2. Top-six Center = draft Perfetti, sign Haula and try Fabbri in the middle
3. Top-six Center = plan for Veleno at Center, draft Perfetti, sign Haula and try Fabbri in the middle
4. Top-four defenceman = sign Torey Krug
5. Top-six Winger = two of Perfetti/Veleno/Haula/Fabbri does not work at center and you push those guys on wing. (Larkin is still the 3rd Top-six center...)
6. Goalie = sign Robin Lehner.
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At this point, this is starting to feel like the Larkin draft all over again. Perfetti with all kinds of local eyes on him, is an obvious selection.
Larkin was critiqued for being a "safe" pick, but maybe that's kind of the point. They knew exactly the kind of kid Larkin was. And that seems to be true for Perfetti as well.
Larkin was critiqued for being a "safe" pick, but maybe that's kind of the point. They knew exactly the kind of kid Larkin was. And that seems to be true for Perfetti as well.
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We win no matter what. Perfetti jumps into the top 3, we draft whoever fell out. No change, we just take Perfetti.
If we want to do some 400 IQ PSYOPs to shift the draft order, I think the Wings need to start leaking how much they love Drysdale. Drysdale this, Drysdale that. Boy, that kid is going to be amazing. Geez, what better than an elite defender to help Ottawa. That Drysdale man!
Then we scoop up that German like a discount TV on Black Friday.
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Yeah, I've always been in favor of a tight lip org., w/Misdirection via bad intel. Muahahahaha. Let the PsyOp games begin. It is the only logical choice.
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Why Perfetti over Rossi? I do agree with some of you saying we should draft whoever is the best offensively. I know Perfetti is a bit more on his own in Saginaw than Rossi is on the '67s. However, I would think Rossi's game would translate better to the NHL, since he's a a better skater. Why Perfetti?
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I said with this break, the kid that has the most to gain is Perfetti. Hes probably been in the gym constantly and its paying off.
This has been discussed like crazy on here if you go back a few pages. It basically boils down too Perfetti being the higher upside player. Hes extremely physically immature compared to the other top prospects. Rossi is one of the most physically mature and he is one of the oldest in the draft.
Rossis game is a ? to translate well. At his size, setting up down low and holding off defenders is going to be very difficult. Also, Rossi isnt some amazing skater. Perfetti is fairly close with him skating wise where I dont think it should play a huge factor in who to draft. While theyre close there, Perfetti seems to have more room to grow there vs Rossi who has eaten and trained like a pro for years with a very physically mature body.
Rossi is definitely a safer pickbut thats not what Detroit needs. The people who didnt like the Rasmussen pick shouldnt be baning the drum for Rossi
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