Who would Detroit take at 4?

[Hen Kolland]

Ehh, number four is pretty much between Drysdale, (RD) Raymond (W) and Rossi, (C) so we could reasonably pick a non-winger if we wanted.

Holtz, Raymond, Perfetti, Rossi, Stutzle all have a non-zero probability of playing on the wing at the NHL level. If you want to avoid wing at all costs, you go with Drysdale, Sanderson, or Askarov.

And if you do, you may be criticized or laughed at.

 

[newfy]

Not many on this board see Rossi as a center at the next level.

I might agree with that but I think if he or Perfetti are considered BPA, theyre worth taking there for the chance they could play center. Even if you wanna call it a 50/50 chance, the chance of being a center combined with the talent is probably worth it

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I might agree with that but I think if he or Perfetti are considered BPA, theyre worth taking there for the chance they could play center. Even if you wanna call it a 50/50 chance, the chance of being a center combined with the talent is probably worth it

On one of those guys, I agree.

 

[Bench]

On one of those guys, I agree.

It's still bonkers to me I'm the crazy one here because I want the best goalie prospect in 15 years, but somehow it's totally reasonable to draft a tiny, not speedy guy.

I'm all about a guy like Marty St. Louis, but that dude was stupid fast and nimble.

The whole Rossi thing is like... Oh hi, Hudler. Nice to see you again.

 

[Frk It]

It's still bonkers to me I'm the crazy one here because I want the best goalie prospect in 15 years, but somehow it's totally reasonable to draft a tiny, not speedy guy.

I'm all about a guy like Marty St. Louis, but that dude was stupid fast and nimble.

The whole Rossi thing is like... Oh hi, Hudler. Nice to see you again.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

It's still bonkers to me I'm the crazy one here because I want the best goalie prospect in 15 years, but somehow it's totally reasonable to draft a tiny, not speedy guy.

I'm all about a guy like Marty St. Louis, but that dude was stupid fast and nimble.

The whole Rossi thing is like... Oh hi, Hudler. Nice to see you again.

 

[Bench]

Hey, I know it isn't you. But Rossi is firmly in the #3/4 spot here on the forum after Drysdale and Raymond. Basically tied with Perfetti.

In the poll asking who the Wings should avoid, only 17% voted for Rossi. For comparison, Raymond was avoided at 12% and Drysdale was 13%. Askarov was 50% avoid rate.

I think that's bonkers. I don't think taking Raymond or Drysdale over Askarov is unreasonable at all. But Rossi? That's bonkers.

We can easily point to how great all the recent goalies with Askarov's pedigree have done. One can debate how important goalies are, but Price and Vasilevskiy are tremendous NHL goalies, that part isn't up for debate. Meanwhile, still waiting for someone to show me a player with Rossi's measurable qualities that is anything more than a depth player in the NHL.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Hey, I know it isn't you. But Rossi is firmly in the #3/4 spot here on the forum after Drysdale and Raymond. Basically tied with Perfetti.

In the poll asking who the Wings should avoid, Rossi only 17% voted for Rossi. For comparison, Raymond was avoided at 12% and Drysdale was 13%. Askarov was 50% avoid rate.

I think that's bonkers. I don't think taking Raymond or Drysdale over Askarov is unreasonable at all. But Rossi? That's bonkers.

We can easily point to how great all the recent goalies with Askarov's pedigree have done. One can debate how important goalies are, but Price and Vasilevskiy are tremendous NHL goalies, that part isn't up for debate. Meanwhile, still waiting for someone to show me a player with Rossi's measurable qualities that is anything more than a depth player in the NHL.

Honestly Hudler is a nice comparison. Hudler was armed with a very good shot that he didn't use enough. I think his hands were better than what I have seen out of Rossi. I mean to me that is kind of his ceiling, is like Hudler's big year in Calgary. Jiri Hudler was a good player, but a top 5 draft pick.... **** no. Sorry Eva wherever you are.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Wild to me that the same fans who watched Zetterberg and Datsyuk for so long can't entertain the idea that an undersized center can be successful in the league without high-end speed.

Like if you just don't like Rossi that's fair enough, but this notion that he's an outrageous pick at 4OA is pretty exaggerated imo.

 

[Bench]

Honestly Hudler is a nice comparison. Hudler was armed with a very good shot that he didn't use enough. I think his hands were better than what I have seen out of Rossi. I mean to me that is kind of his ceiling, is like Hudler's big year in Calgary. Jiri Hudler was a good player, but a top 5 draft pick.... **** no. Sorry Eva wherever you are.

Yeah, Hudler was great for what he was. You could do so much worse on your 2nd line and handling some PP duties. But I'm with you, in that when you lack elite speed and agility at that size... like how the hell are you going to drive the play? You better have 400 IQ Gretzky level anticipation.

 

[Marky9er]

Yeah, Rossi isn't nimble whatsoever.




It's a wonder he can stand up at all!



Persistence and determination are omnipotent!

 

[jkutswings]

Hey, I know it isn't you. But Rossi is firmly in the #3/4 spot here on the forum after Drysdale and Raymond. Basically tied with Perfetti.

In the poll asking who the Wings should avoid, only 17% voted for Rossi. For comparison, Raymond was avoided at 12% and Drysdale was 13%. Askarov was 50% avoid rate.

I think that's bonkers. I don't think taking Raymond or Drysdale over Askarov is unreasonable at all. But Rossi? That's bonkers.

We can easily point to how great all the recent goalies with Askarov's pedigree have done. One can debate how important goalies are, but Price and Vasilevskiy are tremendous NHL goalies, that part isn't up for debate. Meanwhile, still waiting for someone to show me a player with Rossi's measurable qualities that is anything more than a depth player in the NHL.

Yep. Definitely better to take the indispensable answer to all the team's problems:

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Wild to me that the same fans who watched Zetterberg and Datsyuk for so long can't entertain the idea that an undersized center can be successful in the league without high-end speed.

Like if you just don't like Rossi that's fair enough, but this notion that he's an outrageous pick at 4OA is pretty exaggerated imo.

He is smaller than both those guys in terms of reach by a decent amount, a worse skater he is in the neighborhood of broken back Z for me and plays a grinding style. There is also no real case for drafting this kind of player in the top 10. Small mediocre skaters don't go there because the value is poor. Now could turn into Marchand in terms of a grinding smaller player, he would need to make huge strides athletically in my opinion. But we will see.

There is no actual case for it though. He plays a very mature game on one of the most loaded OHL Teams I have seen in one of the weakest years for the league in quite sometime. When you actually run his numbers through analytics while including age like Iyer does his numbers fall. He disproportionately beat on his weaker opposition. I just see tons of flag here. I get that he plays hard and he plays defense. It is why I don't think he misses entirely. But man it is the most angry I will have been with this franchise in a long time if they pick him #4. Like turn off the draft and go do something else angry. I will root for him, but it will take me a good few weeks to get over that one if I am being honest.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Yeah, Rossi isn't nimble whatsoever.




It's a wonder he can stand up at all!



Persistence and determination are omnipotent!

Love that the quote is from Rob Schremp

 

[Bench]

Yeah, Rossi isn't nimble whatsoever.

This is all relative to star NHL players. Obviously any potential top 10 talent is going to be a great athlete.

 

[Bench]

Yep. Definitely better to take the indispensable answer to all the team's problems:

Nice example. The best player in that entire episode was the goalie. And she wasn't afraid to get dirty.

 

[Marky9er]

This is all relative to star NHL players. Obviously any potential top 10 talent is going to be a great athlete.

How many chin ups are we talking here?

 

[Bench]

How many chin ups are we talking here?

For Rossi? More.

 

[Bench]

But man it is the most angry I will have been with this franchise in a long time if they pick him #4. Like turn off the draft and go do something else angry. I will root for him, but it will take me a good few weeks to get over that one if I am being honest.

"The pick is in. With the 4th overall pick, the Detroit Red Wings proudly select Marco Rossi."

TZE:

 

[Marky9er]

For Rossi? More.

Did you just deflect my Mittelstadt reference? Damn you're ruthless.

 

[Bench]

Did you just deflect my Mittelstadt reference? Damn you're ruthless.

Man, I missed that reference. I just saw low hanging fruit and I took it.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

"The pick is in. With the 4th overall pick, the Detroit Red Wings proudly select Marco Rossi."

TZE:

 

[brentashton]

I picked Drysdale but Raymond is a close 2nd. Want to go a bit wild, then maybe Perfetti. I believe in Stevie to look at the long term best for the club. DRW are fortunate to have him as a GM. He’s not rash, prone to knee jerk actions and is a thinker.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

For Rossi? More.

I think he would only get to 22

Also what is with making the small one pink... It has to be a woman does it... Rossi should be offended.

 

[brentashton]

Love that the quote is from Rob Schremp

Yeah, Rossi isn't nimble whatsoever.



It's a wonder he can stand up at all!



Persistence and determination are omnipotent!

If anyone takes @robschrempf recommendation on work ethic then shoot me now...