jfrank21
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So I'm guessing you havent ever watched him play? Here's a hint, go watch his Hlinka performance to start last season.
Who would Detroit take at 4?
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Perfetti is the most Kane-like player in the draft. If he can put on some weight AND get some burst in his stride, he's going to be an exciting 80-90 point guy.
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A strong side right wing/weak side left wing would fill a need. So, if Raymond is arguably BPA at fourth pick anyway, then he's an ultra sensible pick. Hopefully they get to see him play more before the draft.
What is the likelihood that Perfetti and Rossi are NHL centers?
What is the likelihood that Perfetti and Rossi are NHL centers?
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Why isn’t Marat Khuznutdinov ranked higher? He’s roughly the same size as Rossi, Perfetti, and all the other small centres. People are finding faults with those two but I’ve seen nothing but praise for Marat. It’s mentioned in spite of his size he may still be able to play centre. Probably because of his elite skating. He’s the one guy who can sway me away from Wallinder at 32.
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rossi id say a sure thing. he’s way too good on the dot to not be.
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You'll see Khusnutdinov taken earlier than ranks inform in the real draft. And Rossi falling a bit.
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I think the Wings should add a two-way forward if they choose to go with a forward here, because they have a couple of forwards already who will have to get lots of ice time, but who don't have strong defensive games. I think Raymond checks the box. However, obviously the need for a center is huge.
The Wings probably have the Rossi-Perfetti debate all sorted considering one played in Saginaw and the other was on the '67s. If they are sure they can turn one of these guys into a center, I still think they have to address the question about the defensive end.
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Perfetti is skilled, but definitely in a more subtle way than someone like Kane IMO.
I was listening to Craig Button on a podcast recently, and he was comparing Stutzle to Kane. Said that was due to his creativity with the puck and confidence to try things with a high level of difficulty. Thought that was interesting.
This team over the past 5 years has scored a combined 149 fewer goals than the league average, and allowed a combined 120 more goals against than the league average. Over that span, we have scored a combined 410 fewer goals than the league leading team each year, and allowed a combined 329 more goals than the league leading team.
The problems are everywhere, but the main problem is that the players who are supposed to produce offense are relatively bad at offense, and the players who are supposed to provide defense are relatively bad at defense. What I mean is that our forwards have been bad at putting the puck in the net, and our defensemen have been bad at keeping the puck out of the net. Please don't tell me that your strategy at this point is to skip on the offensive talent at forward, to address defense by selecting a more defensive forward. Players who bring no offense like Helm, Nielsen, Glendening, Ehn, Erne, DLR weren't enough for you? Why not just draft a defenseman if you want to improve the defense?
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I’ve heard he was more impressive in international tournaments than league play. I’ve cooled on him a decent amount. Great skater, but I’ve heard there are questions about how much offense he will give you, and if he has more than bottom 6 upside.
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That wasn't the argument he made though.
Average skating by itself isn't necessarily a problem. Neither is below average size. But combining the two is like stepping to the plate with two strikes on you - either you are so fantastic at what you do that you become the one exception to the rule, or you're going to have a rough time of things.
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I watched couple of games with Marat. His main role is defensive center. Somehow every time he is on ice , game looks better. He plays for stock up team and he doesn't get a lot of minutes, but he looks great every time he is on ice, same thing about Tyutnev.
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I'm not in love with the Kane comparison. Aside from being slick stickhandlers they play different games offensively. Stutzle rags the puck like Barzal by skating circles around the whole offensive zone, and has the same flaw of holding onto the puck for too long. Kane cuts to the net more, or he cuts to the slot to draw traffic and passes to someone entering the zone late. Kane's also got a laser of a shot that Stutzle just doesn't have yet.
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Lots of pressure but if you're going star player with Perfetti than I think it's Kucherov. He uses his devastating shot and release enough to really imbalance the defense while constantly stressing seems as a passer. Finds ways to get lost in D zone coverage as well.
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jkutswings
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Yeah, either a yes or a no on Perfetti comes from a place that is more informed than the other teams, and either way, that's good in my book.
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sounds like the type of player yzerman would love, taking his high iq and skill level into account
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Yeah, I guess I wasn't factoring the top 3.
I don't think Perfetti's skill game is subtle at all. Maybe he's not quite Kane's level, but the biggest difference between the two right now, at the same age, is skating.
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No I'm essentially saying, theyre not going to take him because of a guy like Draper knowing him and passing on others they think are better. If they take him its going to be because they deem him the BPA and having a guy like Draper with inside knowledge will make that easier to figure out. Perfettis big issue is what he'll be like when hes physically mature. The wings will have the most inside knowledge about how hard hes trained, how well his body has adapted already etc.
Draper knowing him is a big advantage since the combine didnt happen but knowing him isnt the reason the wings will take him if they do
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This is an interesting scouting tactic. I think comparing prospects to football players might not yield the results you're hoping for though.
Nah dude, @The Zetterberg Era is playing 4D chess while the rest of us are trying to figure out checkers.
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Phone autocorrect and that one always feels like a betrayal. I mean we know with all the smart technology these days that they are collecting all this why can't my ******* phone accept NHL first....
I think you meant to say "why can't my ducking phone accept NFL first"
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