Yes and for same reasons that he is going to drop.. Wartime Status of his country, lack of competition play against inferior teams, lack of visibility to scouting.
Who should the Chicago Blackhawks select 2nd overall in the 2024 NHL Entry Draft?
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I haven't seen a Karlsson comparison anywhere from Pronman. Brett Burns, yes. Noah Dobson he's also thrown out there but I'm literally looking at his articles now and I'm finding nothing.
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you know, **** it, let’s just not think so much
Nuh uh. Here’s a video my doctor friend showed me of someone recovering from a full spinal cord rupture with disc protrusions around the lumbar. < 2 week recovery. True storyLike... what?
You don't need a medical degree to know that chronic back issues are FAR worse than knee issues, and far more unpredictable, and debilitating. What a comical take.
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Cant wait for your huge meltdown! Its coming and you cant help it...
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You can connect the dots, if Levshunov hits, to a Burns or Erik Karlsson type. You can connect the dots with Demidov to an Artemi Panarin or Kirill Kaprizov type. All are elite players I’d love to have, but the Norris-contending No. 1 D is the player I would prefer.
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Erik Karlsson and Brent Burns are the most inaccurate comps I've seen for Levshunov.
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Burns took a decade to develop into "something", had a 5 year run as a standout offensive player, and that's it. He never should have won a Norris. He was always absolute dogshit in his own end. One of the most overrated players of the last 20 years. If that's who we get out of #2OA, then I'm taking the elite forward 11/10 times. Burns is not "elite", and really never was. He had a few years of "elite" offensive production, while being terrible in his own end, and most of the rest of his career was just average to a little above average.
And Karlsson is not the comp for Levshunov.
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Levshunov could be something like a Sergachev if he hits his potential. A low end 1D or a high end 2D.
Is that good enough for the 2nd overall pick? Probably. If that is the best this draft has to offer you take it.
Personally, if we don't take Demidov I would gamble on Buium. But if they draft Levshunov I'll be rooting for him to become a Sergachev type.
Is that good enough for the 2nd overall pick? Probably. If that is the best this draft has to offer you take it.
Personally, if we don't take Demidov I would gamble on Buium. But if they draft Levshunov I'll be rooting for him to become a Sergachev type.
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I'm a bit baffled by some of these comparisons based on what I've seen from Lev. Seth Jones is still the best comparison that I've seen. Big, athletic and smooth skating dman with some decent offensive capabilities. I don't see high end offensive awareness. I don't see a deadly accurate shot. I don't see high end defensive awareness; in fact, he needs quite a bit of work on that. He throws the occasional big hit but I don't see the meanness and edge that I'd like. I don't think he's as safe a pick as people are making him out to be. I'd rather trade down and draft Yakemchuk or pick Lindstrom or Iginla.
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Hmmmm
Norris trophy winners suddenly aren't elite.....
Burns was better then every defenseman on the Hawks last year at what, 38 years old?
Good lord.......
Norris trophy winners suddenly aren't elite.....
Burns was better then every defenseman on the Hawks last year at what, 38 years old?
Good lord.......
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I'm taking the high road moving forward.
My Levshunov comp is Rasmus Ristolainen with less grit. Very good tools, not so much with the tool box.
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Says the guy who has his name as "Cubs2024WSChamps" despite them being one of the bottom 10-15 teams in all of baseball.
The same poser who thought he was posting some "top gamer in the world" stats that everyone laughed at and ridiculed because they were comically bad. The same poser who claims to have a badass streaming channel that he makes a ton of money on, yet won't post it for all to see, despite having permission from the mods to do so.
And one Norris... makes a player elite? Bahahahahah. Is Mark Giordano elite?
As if the Norris, which is regularly a comical opinion of the best D in the league, is any indication of who is elite, and who isn't. Last I checked, a bunch of bozo, clueless reporters vote on the Norris winner, which goes to the best "offensive" defenseman in the NHL, not the actual best overall defenseman.
Let me give you a hint. You need to actually watch hockey, and understand the sport, to have an opinion on a player. Not just look at stat sheets.
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Can we at least agree that we have a perfect fit for Levshunov in our lineup with Vlasic.
And that Demidov pot commits us to a lineup of smaller players. 4 of top 6 (bedard Nazar Moore Demi)
And that Demidov pot commits us to a lineup of smaller players. 4 of top 6 (bedard Nazar Moore Demi)
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I do think Lev and Vlasic would pair well together as a top pairing, but I think I'd still rather see a guy like Buium at #2OA over Lev.
We also don't know Demi's actual measurements, yet. If he's over 6'0 and around 190lbs I don't consider that "smaller".
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Change your name to "StatsWatchingIsBest".
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If Lev hits, he fills a need and would complete our defensive core for a decade.
I, again, feel Demidov is more likely to hit as a gamebreaking talent. But if Cam Robinson is correct and a significant portion of the league is shy about taking him with such a high pick, guess I should start accepting the possibility/probability that we don't select him.
Will say that prior to the lottery, I would've been happy with Lev with our top pick and hoped we could get a solid forward with clear top 6 upside with the other 1st. Staying at 2nd and moving up to 18th makes that a bit more likely.
I, again, feel Demidov is more likely to hit as a gamebreaking talent. But if Cam Robinson is correct and a significant portion of the league is shy about taking him with such a high pick, guess I should start accepting the possibility/probability that we don't select him.
Will say that prior to the lottery, I would've been happy with Lev with our top pick and hoped we could get a solid forward with clear top 6 upside with the other 1st. Staying at 2nd and moving up to 18th makes that a bit more likely.
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Long season, still in the wild card race.Says the guy who has his name as "Cubs2024WSChamps" despite them being one of the bottom 10-15 teams in all of baseball.
Yeah, wasnt trying for dubs and it was a mid season.
This season tho?
I hardly play tho.
Yeah sorry. Don't need more fans.
Gio wasn't elite the year he won?And one Norris... makes a player elite? Bahahahahah. Is Mark Giordano elite?
So reporters are "clueless" now? Good lord....
OK.
Brent Burns is elite. And if you're getting a similar player at 2 that's as solid a pick as you're going to get.
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If Levshunov hits his ceiling, you're looking at more like an Alex Pietrangelo type. 2-way physical DMan who can also run a powerplay and contribute offensively without putting up eye-popping stats. (Pietrangelo has a career high 54 points, never won a Norris or even been a finalist, despite missing close a couple times, but was a two-time Number 1 DMan on a Stanley Cup Winner).
With Demidov, the "geopolitical concerns" aren't real. Russian players keep coming to the NHL (Russians had their highest % of NHL players in 20 years, fwiw) and will keep coming (we know Demidov is eager to come). The "competition" concerns are not entirely unfounded. None of it is his fault from my perspective, SKA is keeping him out of the KHL because he won't extend, and the international ban is beyond his concern... but everyone would feel a lot more comfortable had he put up a zillion points in the U18 a year ago, and a healthy amount of points in the U20 this most recent year... again, not his fault that wasn't an option.
I've been a clear Demidov/Levshunov are 2/3, both are good selections and I won't be mad either way. I'd still go Demidov, but I'm more than comfortable if Hawks brass would rather go Levshunov.
With Demidov, the "geopolitical concerns" aren't real. Russian players keep coming to the NHL (Russians had their highest % of NHL players in 20 years, fwiw) and will keep coming (we know Demidov is eager to come). The "competition" concerns are not entirely unfounded. None of it is his fault from my perspective, SKA is keeping him out of the KHL because he won't extend, and the international ban is beyond his concern... but everyone would feel a lot more comfortable had he put up a zillion points in the U18 a year ago, and a healthy amount of points in the U20 this most recent year... again, not his fault that wasn't an option.
I've been a clear Demidov/Levshunov are 2/3, both are good selections and I won't be mad either way. I'd still go Demidov, but I'm more than comfortable if Hawks brass would rather go Levshunov.
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your posts are somehow less legible than fiddy’s. i don’t understand how you manage to write a fifteen word sentence where 20% of the words are “the”.
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