Who are your top 10 defenseman next season?

[Snap]

We just did the forwards in the other thread, figure we should rifle off top 10 D as well.

Mine in no order
Hughes
McAvoy
Heiskanen
Makar
Fox
Josi
Dahlin
Hedman
Slavin
Dobson

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[MNRube]

I support this list. Edmonton fans about to be pissed though.

 

[hurdemz]

We just did the forwards in the other thread, figure we should rifle off top 10 D as well.

Mine in no order
Hughes
McAvoy
Heiskanen
Makar
Fox
Josi
Dahlin
Hedman
Slavin
Dobson

Uninteresting if you're not putting this in order. Basically gonna see the same 10 defencemen for 50 posts. Lets see a 1-10 list.

1. Makar
2. Mcavoy
3. Josi
4. Heiskanen
5. Hughes
6. Hedman
7. Fox
8. Slavin
9. Dahlin
10. Dobson

Edit: oilers fans. I hold bouchard in high regard. I'd put him at 11 only because of his defensive game. What an offensive weapon, though.

Edit #2: maybe hughes should also be lower because of defence? There really isn’t a right answer here.

 

[wintersej]

I have a tough time putting Dahlin ahead of Bouchard at this point.

 

[olafsson]

Uninteresting if you're not putting this in order. Basically gonna see the same 10 defencemen for 50 posts. Lets see a 1-10 list.

1. Makar
2. Mcavoy
3. Josi
4. Heiskanen
5. Hughes
6. Hedman
7. Fox
8. Slavin
9. Dahlin
10. Dobson

Edit: oilers fans. I hold bouchard in high regard. I'd put him at 11 only because of his defensive game. What an offensive weapon, though.

Edit #2: maybe hughes should also be lower because of defence? There really isn’t a right answer here.

I’m not sure I agree with the current Norris winning defence man sitting below Josi, McAvoy, and Heiskanen

Looking forward to the fireworks of Oilers fans seeing their guy off the list, though

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Fox



Bunch of assorted scrubs

 

[TheOrangeDesk]

Makar
Fox
josi
Bouchard
Heiskanen
Hughes
Slavin
Dobson
Toews
Spurgeon

 

[Siludin]

Uninteresting if you're not putting this in order. Basically gonna see the same 10 defencemen for 50 posts. Lets see a 1-10 list.

1. Makar
2. Mcavoy
3. Josi
4. Heiskanen
5. Hughes
6. Hedman
7. Fox
8. Slavin
9. Dahlin
10. Dobson

Edit: oilers fans. I hold bouchard in high regard. I'd put him at 11 only because of his defensive game. What an offensive weapon, though.

Edit #2: maybe hughes should also be lower because of defence? There really isn’t a right answer here.

If Hughes were on Edmonton he would have gotten 100+ points.

 

[Satanphonehome]

In no particular order:
Fox, McAvoy, Hedman, Dahlin, Heiskanen, Josi, Makar, Hughes.
Slavin and Bouchard might be my last two, but I feel like probably missed someone.

 

[TommyDangles]

I have a tough time putting Dahlin ahead of Bouchard at this point.

I don't. Dahlin on Edmonton would be insane. Just like Hughes/Makar/Heiskanen on Edmonton would also be insane. Those guys would be breaking records.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

1) Makar
2) Hughes
3) Heiskanen
4) Fox
5) McAvoy
6) Josi
7) Dobson
8) Bouchard
9) Slavin
10) Hedman

 

[majormajor]

Uninteresting if you're not putting this in order. Basically gonna see the same 10 defencemen for 50 posts. Lets see a 1-10 list.

1. Makar
2. Mcavoy
3. Josi
4. Heiskanen
5. Hughes
6. Hedman
7. Fox
8. Slavin
9. Dahlin
10. Dobson

Edit: oilers fans. I hold bouchard in high regard. I'd put him at 11 only because of his defensive game. What an offensive weapon, though.

Edit #2: maybe hughes should also be lower because of defence? There really isn’t a right answer here.

Evan Bouchard is better defensively than Victor Hedman at this point. Which is to say, not very good, but not abysmal. When Hedman isn't moving well he gets walked left and right.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808126139342131416

 

[Maurice of Orange]

I did a top 25 current list.

1. Cale Makar
2. Quinn Hughes
3. Miro Heiskanen
4. Roman Josi
5. Adam Fox
6. Victor Hedman
7. Evan Bouchard
8. Noah Dobson
9. Rasmus Dahlin
10. Jaccob Slavin
11. Josh Morrissey
12. Charlie McAvoy
13. Shea Theodore
14. Gustav Forsling
15. Morgan Rielly
16. Mattias Ekholm
17. Drew Doughty
18. MacKenzie Weegar
19. Zach Werenski
20. Brock Faber
21. Moritz Seider
22. John Carlson
23. Erik Karlsson
24. Devon Toews
25. Thomas Harley

 

[Ace of Hades]

1. Cale Makar (returning to form)
2. Quinn Hughes
3. Roman Josi
4. Adam Fox
5. Miro Heiskanen
6. Rasmus Dahlin
7. Jaccob Slavin
8. Charlie McAvoy
9. Noah Dobson
10. Josh Morrissey/Gustav Forsling
Ex: Victor Hedman

 

[Fourier]

Bouchard's play tends to get devalued due to McDavid/Draisaitl/Ekholm with the claim that without those guys he would be bleeding goals. And yet over the last two years his xGA/60 without any of them is 1.94 and an xGF% of 60.67% in 577 minutes 5 vs 5.

 

[KlefDown]

Bouchard about to drop a Norris masterclass in 24/25. He’ll be competing in the top 3 all season long

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Dahlin getting massively overrated on here.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Evan Bouchard is better defensively than Victor Hedman at this point. Which is to say, not very good, but not abysmal. When Hedman isn't moving well he gets walked left and right.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1808126139342131416

People seem to have failed both the eye test and the advanced stats test for Bouchard lmao. He's a great defenseman.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

People seem to have failed both the eye test and the advanced stats test for Bouchard lmao. He's a great defenseman.

He’s a fraud

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

1. Makar
2. Hughes
3. Josi
4. Forsling
5. Slavin
6. Fox
7. Heiskanen
8. Toews
9. Morrissey
10. Hedman

HM: Karlsson

Almost there: Dobson and Bouchard

Wouldn't even be in top 15: Dahlin

Dahlin is exceptionally overrated. Morrissey outscored him both 5on5 and overall the past few seasons along with posting better defensive stats. Yes he does play on a better team, but it's not an Oilers level team and Jets actually rely on him and Demelo more in tougher situations as opposed to spreading things out like Dahlin/Power.

 

[KevinRedkey]

There is no good reason to have Dahlin ahead of Bouchard at this point.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

There is no good reason to have Dahlin ahead of Bouchard at this point.

I agree, same goes for Dobson, Morrissey, Forsling, etc. Dahlin isn't anywhere as good as those Dman. Heck if it wasn't for Dahlin's 2022-2023 breakout, he'd essentially be a marginally better Thomas Chabot, as 2018-2019 to 2021-2022 Dahlin/Chabot were extremely similar in production, with Chabot playing harder minutes, generating more offensive chances, and having slightly worse defensive impact.

 

[Xirik]

Hamilton was in the running for the Norris two seasons ago ahead of all the people listed above not named Hughes, Morrissey, and Karlsonn. He's been resting for most of the last season also. I'm pretty sure he'll be in the top 10 over many of the players other's have listed.

 

[GOALOFSSON]

Dahlin getting massively overrated on here.

Seems to be the opposite imo

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Seems to be the opposite imo

If Dahlin is in the top 10 he's already overrated. The fact I've seen one person put him in top 5...