Post-Game Talk: Who are these guys? Habs stamp out Bolts 5-2!

JianYang

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Last time they did it was back in 2009 in the Halak era

I thought they might have done at the end of 2010... at least I remember wisnieski scoring the winner in Florida in dramatic fashion.... maybe they lost in Tampa though but I just seem to remember that it was a positive trip.

I was certainly critical of Anderson last season, very pleased with him this season. It's not just the fact he's getting points, he's engaged physically and is making good plays even when they don't result in goals. He'll never get to the levels we hoped when he signed here, but a physical 3rd liner who can slot higher in the lineup occasionally and who can put up about 15-20 goals is a good piece to have. If only his cap hit was about 1M-2M lower.

I lost count how many icing were negated today and andsrson seemed like the major culprit. The lightning defense were in quicksand all day.
 

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How was Tampa good for so long. A ridiculous 3rd and 4th line that buried teams.
Yes and the reason they also stayed good for so long is that they’re not shy of replacing those guys when it’s time.

People wanna see results right now and some probably think they’re there right now and need to sign Evans but they’re still rebuilding and attaching themselves to Evans for around 4x4 is not something they should do in a rebuild, trading him is the thing to do.
 

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I've been reading and hearing this my entire life.
 

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Yes and the reason they also stayed good for so long is that they’re not shy of replacing those guys when it’s time.

People wanna see results right now and some probably think they’re there right now and need to sign Evans but they’re still rebuilding and attaching themselves to Evans for around 4x4 is not something they should do in a rebuild, trading him is the thing to do.

Acquiring assets is no longer the priority at this stage of the rebuild. The team needs to get better. If you lose evans, you need to replace him with someone similar or better.
Not wait two years to flounder again until our young replacements catch up. We cant take steps back again now for “the future” at this stage. Its how you breed a losing culture.

We have a strong young core with high end prospects waiting in the wings. We need a strong supporting cast to help them improve and compete.
 

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Yes and the reason they also stayed good for so long is that they’re not shy of replacing those guys when it’s time.

People wanna see results right now and some probably think they’re there right now and need to sign Evans but they’re still rebuilding and attaching themselves to Evans for around 4x4 is not something they should do in a rebuild, trading him is the thing to do.
You have to have an elite core to operate around like Tampa has/had to actually pull that off successfully. We don’t anyone that projects to be any of Kucherov, Stamkos, Hedman, Point, Bishop/Vasilevskiy, etc which makes finding the depth players much easier. We also don’t have the Florida and state tax benefit to get those kind of players on great contracts.
 
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Yes and the reason they also stayed good for so long is that they’re not shy of replacing those guys when it’s time.

People wanna see results right now and some probably think they’re there right now and need to sign Evans but they’re still rebuilding and attaching themselves to Evans for around 4x4 is not something they should do in a rebuild, trading him is the thing to do.
I think Tampa have been replacing their bottom six mainly for cap reasons.

As for rebuilding, I'm not sure what's left to rebuild.
They could use another top 4 RD, goaltending is still a bit of a question mark, but other than that, i think the pieces are pretty much already there.
 
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Yes and the reason they also stayed good for so long is that they’re not shy of replacing those guys when it’s time.

People wanna see results right now and some probably think they’re there right now and need to sign Evans but they’re still rebuilding and attaching themselves to Evans for around 4x4 is not something they should do in a rebuild, trading him is the thing to do.
Is 4x4 really that big of a deal for a center who does all the little things and provides secondary scoring with a rising salary cap? It's less than what Dvorak has been getting paid under a flat cap and a contract that was signed when the cap was lower. I also see 4x4 as tradeable for when (if) kids like Beck/Kapanen have learned the ropes and are ready to take on that role full-time in 2-3 years.
 

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Josh Anderson was awesome today, like a speedy Clydesdale out there, they had no answer for him, great performance.

Evans again, solid AF.

Aircraft Carrier has stabilized the defense.

Yoelle, wtf?

No running around in the last two games, much better positional play, I enjoyed it very much.
LOL! I love that nickname.
 
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Yes and the reason they also stayed good for so long is that they’re not shy of replacing those guys when it’s time.

People wanna see results right now and some probably think they’re there right now and need to sign Evans but they’re still rebuilding and attaching themselves to Evans for around 4x4 is not something they should do in a rebuild, trading him is the thing to do.
Rebuild for the sake of acquiring picks phase is OVER, now if a package with Evans can net an NHL ready 23-27 age group RDman capable of 20+ TOI …. that’s another matter
 

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Josh Anderson was awesome today, like a speedy Clydesdale out there, they had no answer for him, great performance.

Evans again, solid AF.

Aircraft Carrier has stabilized the defense.

Yoelle, wtf?

No running around in the last two games, much better positional play, I enjoyed it very much.
Those were the exact words used by Stevie Y & Cooper after CBJ eliminated TBay in the playoffs w Kucherov being tossed out of game 1 for swinging his stick at Anderson’s head. Torts game plan was for Anderson, his 3rd line W, to physically target & abuse Kucherov, who doesn’t like being hit
 

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Rebuild for the sake of acquiring picks phase is OVER, now if a package with Evans can net an NHL ready 23-27 age group RDman capable of 20+ TOI …. that’s another matter
It’s not over.

I know some wants this period to go faster but no, they should still draft. Would be a mistake for the long term not to.
 
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Rebuild for the sake of acquiring picks phase is OVER, now if a package with Evans can net an NHL ready 23-27 age group RDman capable of 20+ TOI …. that’s another matter
That would be the point. You trade Evans for a 1st because you have his replacements already. Then you have three 1sts, two 2nds and two 3rds this draft. That’s before trading Savard and Armia. The team would have the ammunition to get a big upgrade either at 2C or D

Trading Evans is the easiest decision ever. He’s shooting 30%. He’s never played like this at any point in his career. You have a couple players that can replace him in the system. Strike while the iron is hot.
 

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Suzuki decks Ducherov. :D
Kirby Dach can start and stop again and is now faster than Patrik Laine. :laugh:
A new Newhook.
Anderson and Heineman are Power Rangers.
Matheson got a new brain for Christmas.
We just need our top line to start scoring again that and Slaf to become a tad less clumsy.
Damn my life is good.
I can only imagine what Hughes and Gorton are saying.
 

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I swung by the TB forum and was somewhat surprised at civility... most comment are about the team not showing up for the game and actually giving Habs some credit... within reason of course. So nothing like reading the leafs forum, for example.
Well, there's a reason for that. Years of success have mellowed the TB fans, while six decades of futility have made the Make Believe fans resentful.
 

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Give Evans the money from Dvo leaving and at 4 years, and that's no big deal.........otherwise we have to find his replacement, and I am not convinced Beck will be able to get that done.

That would be the point. You trade Evans for a 1st because you have his replacements already. Then you have three 1sts, two 2nds and two 3rds this draft. That’s before trading Savard and Armia. The team would have the ammunition to get a big upgrade either at 2C or D

Trading Evans is the easiest decision ever. He’s shooting 30%. He’s never played like this at any point in his career. You have a couple players that can replace him in the system. Strike while the iron is hot.
Who do you feel takes his place? I agree somewhat with you, but not convinced we have him covered if we trade him....
 

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That would be the point. You trade Evans for a 1st because you have his replacements already. Then you have three 1sts, two 2nds and two 3rds this draft. That’s before trading Savard and Armia. The team would have the ammunition to get a big upgrade either at 2C or D

Trading Evans is the easiest decision ever. He’s shooting 30%. He’s never played like this at any point in his career. You have a couple players that can replace him in the system. Strike while the iron is hot.
Every year even die hard tank fans enthusiastically claim the Habs should keep the latest “good for the room” vet. Last year (!) we read that Savard should probably be extended due to his veteran guile (!!).

Now it’s Armia and Evans.

It never makes sense. Evans is not a 50pt guy and if he is now, finally, the risk of him falling off is higher than the risk of him continuing on this elevated trajectory.

Easiest decision in the world: sell him at the deadline for the biggest possible package and circle back in the summer if necessary.

Give Evans the money from Dvo leaving and at 4 years, and that's no big deal.........otherwise we have to find his replacement, and I am not convinced Beck will be able to get that done.


Who do you feel takes his place? I agree somewhat with you, but not convinced we have him covered if we trade him....
What’s the rush to replace him?

If Beck or Kapanen can’t do it, the Habs can trade for an overpaid 3C vet or PK specialist 4C at pretty much any time.
 
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Who do you feel takes his place? I agree somewhat with you, but not convinced we have him covered if we trade him....
Beck and Kapanen are both much more suited to play 3C than him. And you’re not going to pay a 4C $4m+ per year for multiple years, that would be asinine.

I’m not saying we wouldn’t miss him for a year as the two young kids will need to adapt, but the 3-4 more years after, we will want that cap space.
 
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