Who’s on your 5-10 NMC list?

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1. Phoenix - organization is in disarray and the city is a sprawling desert hellscape
2. Las Vegas - see "sprawling desert hellscape."
3-5. Dallas, Florida, and Tampa - terrible state politics
6-7. Winnipeg and Edmonton - I like winter, but I have to draw the line somewhere
8-9. Toronto and Boston - because they're Toronto and Boston
10. Carolina - I just don't care for sprawling cities in the U.S. South.
 
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Arizona
Chicago
Winnipeg
Buffalo
Columbus
San Jose
Montreal
Anaheim
Ottawa
Los Angeles
Toronto



Vegas Nashville Florida Dallas are the one that are fiscally very attractive
Western Canada team have quite good taxes equity (VAN EDM CGY)
Socal team are in taxes hell just like eastern canada... minus Vegas
 
Honest question, how would Quebec City and Hartford fair today if both cities still had their franchises? Lot of posters here at HF call for their return. Let's assume the state of both teams is okay at best.
 
Honestly it appears NHL fans have a similar shy blue collar mentality than most NHL players. I think that mentality is exactly why the NHL will never become much more in NA, players are just too afraid of the spotlight in general.

Outside of Subban (whos retired), nobody in this league could do what Kelce did a couple months back.
 
Toronto (hate the franchise)
Boston (ditto TO)
Winnipeg (like the team, but too damned cold and boring)
Edmonton (ditto Winnipeg)
Minnesota (weather)
Arizona
Vegas (hate the place)
Columbus (boring)
Calgary (politics)
Rangers (my dads favourite team and I loved being a contrarian with him, lol)
 
I’ll leave Canada out of it.

Florida (state), Dallas, Arizona, Columbus, St. Louis

Generally just don’t like mid tier cities. Super boring if you’re from the coasts and I don’t like the work ethic (sorry if that offends but I’ve worked in a lot of places). Pittsburgh is an exception.
 
Without reading the entire thread, I imagine Winnipeg is on everyone's lists, as it undoubtedly also is on many players'.

It is a constant serious hurdle to overcome, and it is incredibly disheartening to know no one wants to come here.
 
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10 teams?

Nowhere hot so….

Arizona
Florida
Dallas
Nashville
Vegas
Tampa
Carolina

I’ll also include San Jose and Chicago due to me hating those teams and I’ll save the 10th spot for whatever dumpster fire I might be trying to avoid.

Teams I’d waive to go to:

St. Louis (duh)
Seattle
Vancouver
Rangers
Colorado

I think I’d like those cities in addition to my home
 
Toronto (hate the franchise)
Boston (ditto TO)
Winnipeg (like the team, but too damned cold and boring)
Edmonton (ditto Winnipeg)
Minnesota (weather)
Arizona
Vegas (hate the place)
Columbus (boring)
Calgary (politics)
Rangers (my dads favourite team and I loved being a contrarian with him, lol)
To be honest though, I hate the Habs and the Bruins. But, lifestyle-wise, those would be in my top 10 of cities to live in. Pay me about a million a year or more, I'm running up and down Sherbrooke screaming about how great Rocket Richard is.
 
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1. Toronto

not a fan of the area, shitty org, would really suck to play in front of so many classless fans cheering for me.

2. Chicago

see above

3. LA

^

4. Winnipeg

frozen tundra, would also hate playing in front of fans who are such lunatics, much like Chicago, Toronto, and LA

5. Edmonton

see above


Left Arizona off the list because I would enjoy playing in Salt Lake City, Quebec, Houston.
 
1. Toronto - "Center of the Hockey Universe" narrative is just pressure
2. Edmonton - no thanks to those winters
3. Calgary - same as Edmonton,
and seems like they're stuck in the mushy middle
4. Arizona - if I'm in my prime now, it'll be too long until they're good
5. Columbus - they just seem to be middling (even though they are building, there's too many inefficient players and it'll be awhile until they're good)
6. Vegas - not a fan of how they treat their players like they're disposable -- win them a Cup, but if they see their next favorite shiny new toy they'll dump them, just like they did with Fleury and Reilly Smith more recently

And yet you exclude Winterpeg? Ooooooh k ;)
 
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You hate canadian politics because women are weak and can’t carry pepper spray.

This ain’t 4 chan.

See I hate Canadian politicians because there corrupt myself.
Yeah, yet women have more choice over thier bodies than they do in half of the United States. I think I'd rather live in a society where they have choice, than pay 5% less on my taxes.

Seems like this thread is an excuse for fly-over-country to shit on the coasts and Canada.
 
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Assuming I am a 'star' level caliber of player and am talking for this upcoming season:

Arizona
Winnipeg
Buffalo
Toronto
Edmonton

Most of these are weather related (Toronto also for the media/pressure)

If it was 10 teams add:

Montreal (love the city, but weather and media pressure)
Philly
San Jose
Anaheim
Ottawa

Was tough between Ottawa and Columbus for the last one. LA could pretty easily be on the list for taxes too.
 
TBH, I would actually have the large market teams on my list. I grew up small town and tbh....prefer it. I don't mind visiting large cities, but I would never spend extended times or live in one. Couldn't care less about night life, give me a bottle or whiskey a fire and friends and I am happy. Ocean? Don't like the smell or seafood so I am not missing much there. Hell....call me an asshole (really don't care) but not a particular fan of the social decay that goes with big cities either.

Though Winnipeg I just don't really care for though...so Edmonton and Calgary are the top of my desireable locations. Not familiar enough with American small markets to comment on.
 
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1. Buffalo - Dump
2. Winnipeg - Canada's Buffalo
3. Nashville - I hate Country Music
4. Calgary - Canada's Nashville
5. Florida - Florida is America's wang.
6. Tampa - see above.
7. Toronto - Great city but f*** the leafs.
8. Montreal - Great city but f*** the habs.
 
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TBH, I would actually have the large market teams on my list. I grew up small town and tbh....prefer it. I don't mind visiting large cities, but I would never spend extended times or live in one. Couldn't care less about night life, give me a bottle or whiskey a fire and friends and I am happy. Ocean? Don't like the smell or seafood so I am not missing much there. Hell....call me an asshole (really don't care) but not a particular fan of the social decay that goes with big cities either.

Though Winnipeg I just don't really care for though...so Edmonton and Calgary are the top of my desireable locations. Not familiar enough with American small markets to comment on.
What do you mean by social decay? The violent crime rate is higher in Edmonton and Winnipeg. Look, you can hate us for a ton of reasons, but if safety is an issue, we aren't the problem.
 
What do you mean by social decay? The violent crime rate is higher in Edmonton and Winnipeg. Look, you can hate us for a ton of reasons, but if safety is an issue, we aren't the problem.

There's more to social decay than just violent crime. Not sure the need to get defensive considering this whole thread is about shitting on the smaller markets...often because of their weather....by people who have never even been.
 
There's more to social decay than just violent crime. Not sure the need to get defensive considering this whole thread is about shitting on the smaller markets...often because of their weather....by people who have never even been.
Okay. What's it mean to you? I just think that is an inaccurate representation of Toronto.
 
Okay. What's it mean to you? I just think that is an inaccurate representation of Toronto.

Dude....there are 12 pages of people shitting on cities. Why so sensitive when I never even named Toronto? Hell, I don't even live in Edmonton. Didn't grow up in Edmonton. And only lived in Edmonton when I was going to college. I now live an hour outside of Edmonton. There's a reason for that too. Not gonna explain every minutia about why I just don't like the big city and quite frankly, don't understand why I have to explain myself.
 

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