Value of: Which bad contract could the Leafs trade Tavares for?

[varano]

Tavares for eichel

Buffalos gm should be fired if that ever happened

 

[likash]

Tyler Myers

 

[Ciao]

I like Tavares, and I'm very happy that he's a Leaf for life.

End of story for me.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Tavares has absolutely done his job since arriving in Toronto. They wanted a point producing, goal scoring leader to create a 1-2 punch down the middle with Matthews.

As a Leaf Tavares has set career highs in points (88) and goals (47), and is the team captain. And the team's 1-2 centers are among the absolute best in the league with him and Matthews.

You can say the cap should be more evenly allocated. But Tavares has been worth every penny so far, and there's no reason to believe the Leafs management wants to move him, let alone dump him. The suggestion is bonkers.

He was worth it the first year, but since then put up less than PPG both season with poor playoffs in both and diminishing goal totals. He’s definitely not worth $11M at this point and it’s only going to go down from here

 

[nbwingsfan]

You did a nice job of showing us that YOU were the one not watching. Aside from game 7 and Carey Price, it was all leafs last year. Yeah they didn’t produce, but they did play well.

Wait, you actually think Marner and Matthews played well ?

 

[banks]

He was worth it the first year, but since then put up less than PPG both season with poor playoffs in both and diminishing goal totals. He’s definitely not worth $11M at this point and it’s only going to go down from here

Is .9 points per game really so much "less than PPG" that it's a problem? That's the same pace he always had as an Islander, by the way.

And how is getting his head knocked off considered a "poor playoff".

Get out of here.

 

[nbwingsfan]

I’m good. I watched the series. Don’t think you did. That or 7 years wasn’t enough. Anywho I’ll agree to disagree

So you’re better at analyzing what happened in the series better than your own coach? Because even he called out your big guys…

 

[nbwingsfan]

Is .9 points per game really so much "less than PPG" that it's a problem? That's the same pace he always had as an Islander, by the way.

And how is getting his head knocked off considered a "poor playoff".

Get out of here.

When you’re paid to score goals and you only had 19 last year then yes it’s a problem. Is a 70pt/30G guy (who’s been trending down) worth $11M?

In 12 games he has 8 playoff points. That’s what you want for $11M?

 

[Morbo]

How so? You actually think they are playing up to the par of $21.9M. Honestly…

what? you said he was "barely an NHL player"

 

[banks]

When you’re paid to score goals and you only had 19 last year then yes it’s a problem. Is a 70pt/30G guy (who’s been trending down) worth $11M?

In 12 games he has 8 playoff points. That’s what you want for $11M?

Trending down? The last 2 seasons he's averaged .92 points per game. That's bang on his career average of .93 per game. How is that trending down?

The season before that was a career high. Is he being blamed now for having a career high? Garbage.

Theeafs have struggled in the playoffs, yes. So all of their playoff stats are unimpressive, yes. That's not new, and not entirely on Tavares.

 

[The90]

Wait, you actually think Marner and Matthews played well ?

Shocker. You in a leaf thread.

 

[Seras]

He was worth it the first year, but since then put up less than PPG both season with poor playoffs in both and diminishing goal totals. He’s definitely not worth $11M at this point and it’s only going to go down from here

Use your abilities wisely and always for good

 

[AvroArrow]

If the Leafs retain to match Myers $6 million going back I would do this:

To Vancouver: Tavares (retained) and 2023 3rd round pick

To Toronto: Myers, Sutter, Petan, 2023 5th round pick

Then:

Miller Pettersson Brock Boeser
Garland Horvat Hoglander
Pearson Tavares Podkolzin
Motte Lammikko Dickinson

My guy wants 5M retained on Tavares + a pick for Myers LOL. And then slots him on the 3rd line

 

[AvroArrow]

Everybody on the leafs is a cap dump according to this site

Trade JT, Matthews, Marner retained for picks !

 

[nbwingsfan]

Trending down? The last 2 seasons he's averaged .92 points per game. That's bang on his career average of .93 per game. How is that trending down?

The season before that was a career high. Is he being blamed now for having a career high? Garbage.

Theeafs have struggled in the playoffs, yes. So all of their playoff stats are unimpressive, yes. That's not new, and not entirely on Tavares.

44g/88pts (with Marner)
33G/ 78pts(pace)
28G/73pts (pace)

down and down and down…

I’ll ask again, do you think $11M for a 30G/70pt guy is a fair deal? Over 30 and poor playoffs included?

 

[nbwingsfan]

Shocker. You in a leaf thread.

Shocker, you not answering a question.

Apparently you can analyze better than your own coach though

 

[HugeInTheShire]

There is literally no point to this thread, Tavares clearly isn't the player he once was but he's still a valuable player to any organization.
His NMC and his salary make it impossible to get fair value for him in a trade, and he's certainly too valuable to give away

 

[The90]

Shocker, you not answering a question.

Apparently you can analyze better than your own coach though

Do you find it weird that you’re so obsessed with the leafs?

 

[The90]

44g/88pts (with Marner)
33G/ 78pts(pace)
28G/73pts (pace)

down and down and down…

I’ll ask again, do you think $11M for a 30G/70pt guy is a fair deal? Over 30 and poor playoffs included?

Now do his career average and leaf average. Doesn’t fit what you’re selling does it.

 

[AvroArrow]

44g/88pts (with Marner)
33G/ 78pts(pace)
28G/73pts (pace)

down and down and down…

I’ll ask again, do you think $11M for a 30G/70pt guy is a fair deal? Over 30 and poor playoffs included?

I'll be the first to admit he's not an 11M dollar player, but he's still extremely serviceable and would be a legitimate 1C on most teams in the league.

 

[Syckle78]

Shocker, you not answering a question.

Apparently you can analyze better than your own coach though

That's what he always does at this point. Starts deflecting by attacking people for talking about the leafs. every.single.thread.

 

[Syckle78]

Do you find it weird that you’re so obsessed with the leafs?

Do you find it weird you use this personal attack to deflect on every thread?

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Trending down? The last 2 seasons he's averaged .92 points per game. That's bang on his career average of .93 per game. How is that trending down?

The season before that was a career high. Is he being blamed now for having a career high? Garbage.

Theeafs have struggled in the playoffs, yes. So all of their playoff stats are unimpressive, yes. That's not new, and not entirely on Tavares.

Yeah probably a lot of sweet secondary assists where he was barely part of the play. His goal scoring has been declining. He doesn’t drive a line anymore and he looks invisible out there so far this season and most of last. The only year he played anywhere close to an 11 million dollar center for us was 2019.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

If the Leafs retain to match Myers $6 million going back I would do this:

To Vancouver: Tavares (retained) and 2023 3rd round pick

To Toronto: Myers, Sutter, Petan, 2023 5th round pick

Then:

Miller Pettersson Brock Boeser
Garland Horvat Hoglander
Pearson Tavares Podkolzin
Motte Lammikko Dickinson

Close but I would prefer Vancouver retaining on Pettersson to match Kerfoots 3.5 million going back. I would do this:

To Vancouver: Kerfoot, Engvall, Semyonov and a 2023 3rd round pick

To Toronto: Pettersson (retained) and a 2024 4th round pick

 

[The90]

Do you find it weird you use this personal attack to deflect on every thread?

Not overly.