Speculation: When Does Bruno Get The Boot?

[101st_fan]

The only team performing worse than the Preds just fired their coach.

 

[ShagDaddy]

Hopefully that coaching change bumps helps the Preds get even further behind the league and closer to that sweet 1OA

 

[herzausstein]

At this point, im afraid if we fire Bruno that we will win our way to pick 8-10

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

Is this jackass still going to be the coach after this stinker?

 

[herzausstein]

Is this jackass still going to be the coach after this stinker?

Gotta lose to ottawa first

 

[Rock Paper Sissons]

Another solid performance. The teams really loves showing up for Bruno….
I haven’t ripped Bruno once but I’m done. Screw this guy, he can go hang out with Hines. Our last two coaches are epic failures.
Get rid of this clown.
I will always respect Bruno scored the first ever Preds goal but he’s not a good coach. Just like I’m starting to worry if Barry should have stuck to coaching….

Also on side note, we waved fabbro to have this joker blankenburg playing in our top 4?!
This 5’9” 26 year old defensemen with no upside or notable skills he brings to the table…. Wtf is going on here!!

Fabbro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blankenburg

I’m ready to toss in the towel for this season. 2-0 to Montreal now. Can’t even help out Annunen and get one lol. Brutal.

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

Blankenberg and Wilsby both showed me nothing that led me to believe it would be easy to replace Fabbro with them.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

2009 Barry Melrose, who was fired after 16 games, would be light-years better than Bruno.

 

[NoNecksCurse]

Is this cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, ****less, hopeless, heartless, fat-assed, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed, sack of monkey shit, ****ing idiot still the coach today?

 

[Scoresberg]

If you think it's ugly now, wait until our core guys are truly 37-38 yrs old and we haven't developed ANYONE to replace them.

With ROR out week-to-week, it would be the perfect chance to see what you got in Svechkov and Pärssinen. But instead, I figure we see Stammer at 1C and a lot more Sissons and McCarron.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I mean I did too and I definitely don't recall him looking good. I mean its not like everyone would have jumped on that band wagon just because the coaches said so, we disagree with those guys all the time, especially when it doesn't match the eye test.

I seem to recall no one being really impressed with him going through camp. Eventually the coaches make that comment and people then assume that was probably the issue. I mean you see the guy not playing well, and a coach says he didn't do the offseason work its pretty dang plausible.

Obviously he didn't have a good camp because if he had that mess would have never stuck. No one liked Hynes to start with so absolutely no one had a reason to take his side unless something was matching what they were seeing.

Alright, well in this time of great unity amongst us all, I will just let it go. I know what I saw, and if I wasn't so lazy I could dig up the posts from 3 years ago, but it really doesn't make any difference anymore. A few other people seem to have seen it too, so I'm content with my version of history.

 

[Kat Predator]

If you think it's ugly now, wait until our core guys are truly 37-38 yrs old and we haven't developed ANYONE to replace them.

With ROR out week-to-week, it would be the perfect chance to see what you got in Svechkov and Pärssinen. But instead, I figure we see Stammer at 1C and a lot more Sissons and McCarron.

Bruno packed kids on a line again. Svech, Parssinen, and Evangelista started together.

Jank started with Smith and McCarron but quickly rolled off that line for more TOI. Sissons started with March and ZLH but got flipped with Jank.

But the line that got the heavy minutes was Stammer, Forsberg, and Nyquist. and while they got more than 8 minutes of 5 PP opportunities, they couldn't score. In fact, we gave up a SHG.

So the increased TOI were Stamkos (1C) and Jank. Sissons got sent to wing with McCarron and Parssinen got put with Svech.

 

[PredsV82]

Is this f***ing idiot still the coach today?

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Is this f***ing idiot still the coach today?

The day is young. Be patient...

 

[Kat Predator]

So what happens when Brunette is canned, if the next guy makes some changes and the team starts playing mediocre, average, or even above average hockey? What will you think of how Trotz handled ripping off the band aid in Matrix-like slow motion?

 

[Armourboy]

So what happens when Brunette is canned, if the next guy makes some changes and the team starts playing mediocre, average, or even above average hockey? What will you think of how Trotz handled ripping off the band aid in Matrix-like slow motion?

There is part of me that wonders if he hasn't done it because if he makes a coaching change and they still stink then all of the blame swings to him rather than Brunette.

Right now Brunette is kind of a deflector shield, some of the blame hits him but Brunette is eating most of it. However, once he fires Brunette whatever happens with the team will be on Trotz, unless the team starts winning and then the coach will get all of the credit.

Don't even think its something he is doing on purpose, but its sitting back there in his brain next to the I'm screwed button.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I have to say, I WANT Trotz to learn and get on the right track here. Maybe I'm being overly sentimental. But he sure talked a good game, and his housecleaning, UFA signings, draft pick stockpiling, all of that sure seemed to inject some interest and hope here. Some of the stuff he said seems like BS now in hindsight. But he was talking to us, he seemed legitimately hopeful and optimistic, and that rubbed off on us as a fanbase.

I think he really screwed up the Saros negotiation, and his NMCs-are-candy UFA stance is going to hurt us big time in the long run given the players he got don't seem to be as good as advertised. End of the day, we still kept a league-wide top-5 NHL goalie, added 2 40-goal NHL scorers, and a #2 NHL D. IF you just look at the stats lines anyway. It shouldn't have turned out THIS bad. He really needs to make some admission for how badly the coaching/player utilization situation has turned out, however. If he can salvage things on that front, even given the season is now lost, I can still forgive him and put it down to "rookie mistakes". I do believe Trotz is earnestly invested in making this franchise successful. His screwups to date aren't firing offences to me. Well, they could be in different circumstances... they have been THAT bad. Except our team was at a crossroads already anyway, so the outcome of us sucking instead of going off the other way was always going to be a distinct possibility. There were obviously more "qualified" GM candidates out there... but nobody was going to care about this city as much as Trotz does. I'd give him a little more rope.

The worst case is we're finally going to get those high draft picks? We might have been heading there anyway without all his efforts/failures. If we're now firmly planted on that path for the next few years, well, it was what a lot of people thought we should do anyway, even though it stings a bit that we landed there "unintentionally"?

 

[Kat Predator]

There is part of me that wonders if he hasn't done it because if he makes a coaching change and they still stink then all of the blame swings to him rather than Brunette.

Right now Brunette is kind of a deflector shield, some of the blame hits him but Brunette is eating most of it. However, once he fires Brunette whatever happens with the team will be on Trotz, unless the team starts winning and then the coach will get all of the credit.

Don't even think its something he is doing on purpose, but its sitting back there in his brain next to the I'm screwed button.

Interesting thoughts there.

Personally, I blame Trotz more than Bruno at this point. Trotz is the guy that hired Bruno to coach this collection of players. Trotz is the guy that's been hands off and coach friendly. Trotz is the guy who went all-in during free agency and spent to the cap. Trotz is the guy who got rid of 4 1st round picks since last year for near zero return. And it is Trotz that is standing there with analysis paralysis instead of just flushing.

PS: Like Porter, I want Trotz to turn this around. But when you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. It is not a good look.

 

[Armourboy]

I have to say, I WANT Trotz to learn and get on the right track here. Maybe I'm being overly sentimental. But he sure talked a good game, and his housecleaning, UFA signings, draft pick stockpiling, all of that sure seemed to inject some interest and hope here. Some of the stuff he said seems like BS now in hindsight. But he was talking to us, he seemed legitimately hopeful and optimistic, and that rubbed off on us as a fanbase.

I think he really screwed up the Saros negotiation, and his NMCs-are-candy UFA stance is going to hurt us big time in the long run given the players he got don't seem to be as good as advertised. End of the day, we still kept a league-wide top-5 NHL goalie, added 2 40-goal NHL scorers, and a #2 NHL D. IF you just look at the stats lines anyway. It shouldn't have turned out THIS bad. He really needs to make some admission for how badly the coaching/player utilization situation has turned out, however. If he can salvage things on that front, even given the season is now lost, I can still forgive him and put it down to "rookie mistakes". I do believe Trotz is earnestly invested in making this franchise successful. His screwups to date aren't firing offences to me. Well, they could be in different circumstances... they have been THAT bad. Except our team was at a crossroads already anyway, so the outcome of us sucking instead of going off the other way was always going to be a distinct possibility. There were obviously more "qualified" GM candidates out there... but nobody was going to care about this city as much as Trotz does. I'd give him a little more rope.

The worst case is we're finally going to get those high draft picks? We might have been heading there anyway without all his efforts/failures. If we're now firmly planted on that path for the next few years, well, it was what a lot of people thought we should do anyway, even though it stings a bit that we landed there "unintentionally"?

TBH the only part of it that stings for me is the fact he gave up Fabbro, Tomasino, and Askarov. Even if we end up the same place giving those players up, who should be your Vets towards the end of the rebuild, is going to make some of us sour.

The other issue is he has to change course absolutely right now. He has to start unloading guys, he has to tell the fan base we are going into a full rebuild, and then he might still have enough good will to get through it. If he doesn't do it right now though by the time he is forced to do it fans won't be coming through those doors and won't come back until he shows a team that is good.

Last year was his season to get the ball rolling on the rebuild. He should have forced Brunette to play the young guys so he could move them in the offseason if he needed too. The fan base was prepared to stink, so there was plenty of goodwill and people being willing to sit through a rough season.

The screw up didn't start this season, it started the season before.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Interesting thoughts there.

Personally, I blame Trotz more than Bruno at this point. Trotz is the guy that hired Bruno to coach this collection of players. Trotz is the guy that's been hands off and coach friendly. Trotz is the guy who went all-in during free agency and spent to the cap. Trotz is the guy who got rid of 4 1st round picks since last year for near zero return. And it is Trotz that is standing there with analysis paralysis instead of just flushing.

PS: Like Porter, I want Trotz to turn this around. But when you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. It is not a good look.

He can fix this today, though. It's still going to hurt. But I guess one thing about Trotz sort of giving us the standard GM double-speak is that I still wake up every morning thinking he might actually fire Bruno, despite his words of support. I don't honestly think he can be this blind to what's going on here. I mean, we're just in the peanut gallery and it's obvious to us. Maybe I'm being naive, but he has to see this too?

 

[Predsanddead24]

TBH the only part of it that stings for me is the fact he gave up Fabbro, Tomasino, and Askarov. Even if we end up the same place giving those players up, who should be your Vets towards the end of the rebuild, is going to make some of us sour.

The other issue is he has to change course absolutely right now. He has to start unloading guys, he has to tell the fan base we are going into a full rebuild, and then he might still have enough good will to get through it. If he doesn't do it right now though by the time he is forced to do it fans won't be coming through those doors and won't come back until he shows a team that is good.

Last year was his season to get the ball rolling on the rebuild. He should have forced Brunette to play the young guys so he could move them in the offseason if he needed too. The fan base was prepared to stink, so there was plenty of goodwill and people being willing to sit through a rough season.

The screw up didn't start this season, it started the season before.

Almost exactly my thoughts. The other thing with Trotz is that he kept a most (or maybe even all I don’t really remember) of the rest of the front office staff. I just really wish we would actually move on from the Poile era and get a fresh perspective. With Trotz it’s a bit of change but still a lot of the same we saw under Poile. I’ve said it before that this reminds me so much of UT football in our down years where we desperately wanted to recreate what we were in the past but the game has moved on in a lot of ways. Once we finally embraced that change we finally are back to being relevant again.

 

[herzausstein]

The longer this goes on... the more i blame Trotz.

The longer Bruno is allowed to eff with the young talent while elevating careee tweeners and 3Cs... the more pissed off i become.

Bruno packed kids on a line again. Svech, Parssinen, and Evangelista started together.

Jank started with Smith and McCarron but quickly rolled off that line for more TOI. Sissons started with March and ZLH but got flipped with Jank.

But the line that got the heavy minutes was Stammer, Forsberg, and Nyquist. and while they got more than 8 minutes of 5 PP opportunities, they couldn't score. In fact, we gave up a SHG.

So the increased TOI were Stamkos (1C) and Jank. Sissons got sent to wing with McCarron and Parssinen got put with Svech.

This right here is what drives me crazy. Jank and Sissons are 30+ years old. We know what they bring to the table. It isnt top 6 material. Jamming them up there isnt going to fix it. We have young players of unknown potential and we are not giving them a chance. A shift here and there isnt giving them an opportunity.

 

[Kat Predator]

He can fix this today, though. It's still going to hurt. But I guess one thing about Trotz sort of giving us the standard GM double-speak is that I still wake up every morning thinking he might actually fire Bruno, despite his words of support. I don't honestly think he can be this blind to what's going on here. I mean, we're just in the peanut gallery and it's obvious to us. Maybe I'm being naive, but he has to see this too?

You would think so, yeah. He has his eyes open in the box, so you'd think he sees it. If not, a visit to the eye doctor is required posthaste.

Another random thought is that he is working behind the scenes on this, but given the composition of the roster and the fact it is mid-season, he is having a terrible time finding who he wants to replace Bruno. Trotz does seem to be of a mindset that you push all your chips into the middle of the table with each bet, so he may be holding out for that proverbial "serial winner" and "guy I know".

 

[beardawg]

Blankenberg and Wilsby both showed me nothing that led me to believe it would be easy to replace Fabbro with them.

I don't think its fair to compare either of them to Fabbro anymore. They both look like solid bottom pairing options for the current roster construction in their own right. Blankenburg probably is better as a #7 option but I think Wilsby is far better than Lauzon already

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

My original vote was that Bruno would "Survive The Season". I honestly didn't think we'd be stuck at #31-32 though. Maybe #20-25? Still would have been a fail, but not quite the same full faceplant effect.

Right now, the organization MUST fire the coach. When a consciously tanking team like Chicago fires their guy, come on. We're not "consciously tanking"... it has to be like 10X worse for us. We're NOT GOING TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THIS SEASON... Trotz has to realize that, and there is no reason to delay on the player utilization or coaching fronts right now. Everything MUST switch over to a view for the longer term, or else he just looks dumber.