When did you know it was over for this group?

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now do the rest of Campbell's year
What would you compare it to since we don't have stats for Jan, Feb, March for the new guys either on the Leafs?. :wg:

We can only compare Oct - Dec at this point.

I would suspect we will see the point you're trying to make, by projecting the new guys into the new year and likely are going to compare more favourably to Campbell last year. :)
 

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Wich group? ABBA? ROLLING STONES? KISS?
ABBA: was when they got sucked in the to cyberworld like in Tron.
ROLLINGSTONES: When Mick started to move like the Zombies in MJs Thriller, and bodyparts went missing.
KISS was when Gene dropped his tounge on stage ,stepped on it, fell on his back and broke his hip.
Leafs on the other hand has just started.

shrooms are great eh?
 

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Lol… these threads.

if you didn’t post early, dumping your vision of doom onto our beloved Leafs… just looks silly now.

Ah yeah, it was Mitch’s 22 game points streak… knew it was over for these losers.
 
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When we didn't replace our GM and coaches 172 times that were begged for by this backseat gming fan base.

I ran out of tears that night and every night since then I've been unable to eat or sleep...

Life is too difficult to bear because of these gross misdeeds.

In short, boo hoo always me.
 
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Stephen

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Lol… these threads.

if you didn’t post early, dumping your vision of doom onto our beloved Leafs… just looks silly now.

Ah yeah, it was Mitch’s 22 game points streak… knew it was over for these losers.

You can only respond to what is happening in front of you and it was doom and gloom for a while.
 

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I think it was when Marners ask for his contract. I had a sinking feeling that signing JT for 11 would set a standard that all of them wanted and it would appear I was correct.

It has been proven so far that cap structures like what we have do not work in the playoffs. They fail miserably. Nobody has won the cup in the cap era with a superstar eating so much of the cap.

And we have 4 of them.

Teams that win are more balanced out then we have been. Hopefully we can buck the trend this year but I doubt it.
 
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I don't think extreme, reactionary takes like "when did you know it was over for this group" during every bump in the road is the only possible response.
...and when it is going well the same people go "well wait until the playoffs they'll blow it again" lol. It's clear some people around here follow the Leafs just to have something to be miserable about perpetually and too complain about. At some point it seems unhealthy that they don't find a new hobby, but I guess getting to be constantly miserable might be the hobby at this point.

I love the first few posts in this thread, chock full of people whining and groveling about Marner complaining about the fans...you just need to browse these boards for 10 seconds to realize there's plenty of reasons to shit on this fanbase.
 
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Charlie Brown, Lucy and the football is really the best analogy of what it feels like to be a Leafs fan come playoff time, and winning a playoff round each year.

Strong regular season, increasing belief that this is the year and then ...well you all know how this ends. :)

How long is one expected to be a Charlie Brown Leafs fan, with the team doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?.

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PS. For those wondering how long this gag has been going on for, with different sitcoms but same ending ... Lucy, Charlie Brown, and 43 Footballs: dating back to the 1950's.
At what point to people like this get a new hobby? Genuinely curious. It really seems like some only watch the Leafs so they can be miserable and disappointed and post about it lol...and you've always got an excuse to be miserable even when the hockey is decent.

You realize in this scenario you/the perpetual doomers are a worse version of Charlie Brown? Charlie mistakenly believes Lucy will leave the ball in place eventually and that he will get to kick it, whereas you guys come in believing they will lose (the ball will be removed at the last second) but keep coming back to watch (taking a kick at the ball you think won't be there).

Or are some fans just gluttons for punishment and that's as much the "juice" as anything?
 

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Still 3rd (PTS% is the logical way to look at the standings). Closing in on 2nd though and if they win the next 17 games or so, they will overtake Boston for 1st overall (maybe).

I focus on points because that's how the NHL does it.

Slumps happen to everybody Boston will hit their slump.

Unless you truly think they are going to win 70+ games

I don't believe that.
 

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Leaf fans in this thread at the beginning of the season: "This team is good at regular season pond hockey but buckles in the playoffs in humiliating fashion year after year after year after year. They take moral victories in things like (lol) applauding how they shake hands with the team that defeats them. Clearly something is wrong. When did you know it was done with this core?"

The key point is the team is great at pond hockey regular season, and sucks in the playoffs. 0-9 in series-clinching games. An almost impossible statistic.

And now we have "different" leaf fans coming in here saying "But hey, we're good at regular season pond hockey again. LOL!!!! SICK BURN!!!"

Like, what is happening?
 

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At what point to people like this get a new hobby? Genuinely curious. It really seems like some only watch the Leafs so they can be miserable and disappointed and post about it lol...and you've always got an excuse to be miserable even when the hockey is decent.

You realize in this scenario you/the perpetual doomers are a worse version of Charlie Brown? Charlie mistakenly believes Lucy will leave the ball in place eventually and that he will get to kick it, whereas you guys come in believing they will lose (the ball will be removed at the last second) but keep coming back to watch (taking a kick at the ball you think won't be there).

Or are some fans just gluttons for punishment and that's as much the "juice" as anything?
Once you realize what he is, you won't have to ask yourself these questions anymore.
 

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...and when it is going well the same people go "well wait until the playoffs they'll blow it again" lol. It's clear some people around here follow the Leafs just to have something to be miserable about perpetually and too complain about. At some point it seems unhealthy that they don't find a new hobby, but I guess getting to be constantly miserable might be the hobby at this point.

I love the first few posts in this thread, chock full of people whining and groveling about Marner complaining about the fans...you just need to browse these boards for 10 seconds to realize there's plenty of reasons to shit on this fanbase.
Yeah IMO it's fine to say how many points Marner gets in the regular season doesn't matter that much, it's all about the playoffs. That's the way I feel anyway and I think most people feel the same way. But at the same time, every game does mean something, even the regular season games and it's a shame if PTS is preventing some people from enjoying the games, me I'm having a ton of fun.
At what point to people like this get a new hobby? Genuinely curious. It really seems like some only watch the Leafs so they can be miserable and disappointed and post about it lol...and you've always got an excuse to be miserable even when the hockey is decent.

You realize in this scenario you/the perpetual doomers are a worse version of Charlie Brown? Charlie mistakenly believes Lucy will leave the ball in place eventually and that he will get to kick it, whereas you guys come in believing they will lose (the ball will be removed at the last second) but keep coming back to watch (taking a kick at the ball you think won't be there).

Or are some fans just gluttons for punishment and that's as much the "juice" as anything?
But the people who keep saying that thinking this team can't win, we're doomed before we even start ... I agree they are the worst and why they waste their time here is a mystery. I'd much rather be Charlie Brown then these downers!

I focus on points because that's how the NHL does it.

Slumps happen to everybody Boston will hit their slump.

Unless you truly think they are going to win 70+ games

I don't believe that.
No, they don't. Look at the final standings in the covid shortened season when teams didn't play the same number of games. Pay close attention to those cases where some teams finished ahead of teams who had more points. The reason - the standings are ordered by PTS% and if the season would end today, NJ would be ahead of us because they have a better PTS%. Period.
 

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At what point to people like this get a new hobby? Genuinely curious. It really seems like some only watch the Leafs so they can be miserable and disappointed and post about it lol...and you've always got an excuse to be miserable even when the hockey is decent.

You realize in this scenario you/the perpetual doomers are a worse version of Charlie Brown? Charlie mistakenly believes Lucy will leave the ball in place eventually and that he will get to kick it, whereas you guys come in believing they will lose (the ball will be removed at the last second) but keep coming back to watch (taking a kick at the ball you think won't be there).

Or are some fans just gluttons for punishment and that's as much the "juice" as anything?

"some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.”​

-Alfred Penneyworth
 

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