What's Treliving first deal going to be?

[PROUD PAPA]

Hopefully size and speed on the blueline. I'd actually like Zadorov if we're shopping at Flamesmart. He's improved his overall defensive game and is still an imposing physical presence.

 

[Buds17]

I don't think Lilly will be here, or Timmins, they are Dubas guys and I think they are out, I wonder about Samsonov for that same reason.

I think Treliving wants a Defense that's big and nasty, and that's not Lilly and that's not Timmins.

Practically every player on the team is a 'Dubas guy', whether that's through acquisition or contract. Liljegren and Timmins are signed for a combined amount of cap that appears to be rather affordable. Meanwhile, Samsonov probably won't be looking to break the bank either after not being qualified just last offseason. Of course, there aren't any guarantees of that lot sticking around, but...

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Practically every player on the team is a 'Dubas guy', whether that's through acquisition or contract. Liljegren and Timmins are signed for a combined amount of cap that appears to be rather affordable. Meanwhile, Samsonov probably won't be looking to break the bank either after not being qualified just last offseason. Of course, there aren't any guarantees of that lot sticking around, but...

True but Marner being a Dubas guy, and Lilly or Timmins being Dubas guys are not the same thing.

 

[Buds17]

True but Marner being a Dubas guy, and Lilly or Timmins being Dubas guys are not the same thing.

We're looking at players of a vastly different calibre there (particularly with Marner and Timmins).

 

[rumman]

You don't trade an MVP caliber player that would be stupid

if it makes the team better you do..............

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

if it makes the team better you do..............

it doesn't it's impossible

 

[rumman]

Practically every player on the team is a 'Dubas guy', whether that's through acquisition or contract. Liljegren and Timmins are signed for a combined amount of cap that appears to be rather affordable. Meanwhile, Samsonov probably won't be looking to break the bank either after not being qualified just last offseason. Of course, there aren't any guarantees of that lot sticking around, but...

so everyone's available but Rielly?????

it doesn't it's impossible

nothings impossible with hard work and a OPEN mind...............

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

so everyone's available but Rielly?????


nothings impossible with hard work and a OPEN mind...............

tell me how you realistically do it,

 

[Buds17]

so everyone's available but Rielly?????


nothings impossible with hard work and a OPEN mind...............

Not at all. In fact, what I'm suggesting is essentially the opposite of that. Treliving isn't necessarily going to dismantle the roster purely based on the influence that the previous GM had over its construction.

 

[Fonzieleaf]

I think his first deal will be for a flames player. That's usually what happens when a GM lands a job with a new team. You make a deal with your old team first.

Burke's first deal was for Brad May (Mayday) when he was a duck.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

As usual, nothing actually impactful to the rotten core, so first a Schenn re-signing announcement and then, early on July 1, announcement of the dreaded albatross for a shitty 32 yr old 3rd liner to his customary 5x5 UFA deal that he didn’t learn from despite making the mistake at least 4 different times.
That’s saying nothing of the brutal overpays of Kadri, and Weegar/Huberdeau before they even even dressed as Flames which will likely be precedence for brutal overpays on Nylander and/orMatthews, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Holl or Kerfoot overpaid as well since we know Keefe is apparently a great success in Shanny’s eyes

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

We're looking at players of a vastly different calibre there (particularly with Marner and Timmins).

That's my point, you can call almost everybody on this team a Dubas guy.

But there is a difference between Marner being a Dubas guy and Lilly or Timmins being Dubas guys.

I don't think Lilly or Timmins are long for the team.

 

[barilko05]

To be clear I'm not counting contract extensions. I'm talking about trades and UFA signings.

I think we see some BIG changes on defense, I think there is a deal with Calgary that will see either Tanev, Andersson Hanifin or perhaps Wegar land in Toronto, I acknowledge Wegar would be tough because of the money but Treliving brought him to Calgary that's his guy so it's possible.

I also wonder about Connor Murphy in Chicago.

In free agency I he targets Carson Soucy, and he should Soucy, Matt Dumba because he's targeted him before, or Brian Doumulin.

I think we see atleast 2 D men brought in.

Up front I wonder if he targets Alex Killorn, reason being is Treliving likes the gritty skilled forwards, case in point Blake Coleman.

I think Killorn has 3 years left in him.

The problem is I think he gets 5 years.

I could be convinced to go to 4 years knowing the last year is probably going to be rough.

I have to admit I wouldn't hate it.

I also wonder about Max Domi, Dubas didn't seem interested but Treliving might be.

He needs to replace ROR to so I wonder about J Staal or the health of Towes.

I think big changes are coming.

For those that want a retool, I think you will get it.

I like most of these suggestions. Domi? Hell no. 6 teams in 7 years? No thanks. That's Galchnyuk territory. J.Staal? I think the anti-Pride stuff might not fly with MLSE and just the city of Toronto in general. Although, that was Mark and Eric, not Jordan. Just my assumption that his views are the same as his bros. I could be way off base there. Still, there would be a big bashlash if he tried to pull that here. Just look what's going on with Anthony Bass. Toews? If he's willing to play for Gio money. Just enough so we could bury the contract without cap issues...like 1.2m. Might be a good 3rd, 4th line centre, and a proven winner. Like ROR. Want him back too.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I like most of these suggestions. Domi? Hell no. 6 teams in 7 years? No thanks. That's Galchnyuk territory. J.Staal? I think the anti-Pride stuff might not fly with MLSE and just the city of Toronto in general. Although, that was Mark and Eric, not Jordan. Just my assumption that his views are the same as his bros. I could be way off base there. Still, there would be a big bashlash if he tried to pull that here. Just look what's going on with Anthony Bass. Toews? If he's willing to play for Gio money. Just enough so we could bury the contract without cap issues...like 1.2m. Might be a good 3rd, 4th line centre, and a proven winner. Like ROR. Want him back too.

Are you sure you aren't confusing Eric with Jordan

 

[Mess]

Buying out Matt Murray's contract.

1st buyout window: Later of June 15 or 48 hours after Stanley Cup Final ends: Opening of the first buyout window. This could come as late as June 21st if the Cup Final goes the distance.

 

[rumman]

tell me how you realistically do it,

No idea, but it certainly isn’t impossible. Obviously you want to keep 34, but you haven’t considered the downfalls of doing this, start by realizing:
A: 34 is a elite player he’d have a really high return especially if you could do a sign and trade
B: Leafs can’t afford to let him walk away for nothing
C: Leafs can’t continue to dedicate half their cap to 4 players
D: the name on the front of the jersey is far more important than the name on the back
E: his best hockey might be behind him, want another JT anchor in the coming years?
F: does he really want to stay with the team, and if so will he agree to a reasonable contract? Dubas made sure he has all the power here, Id rather trade him than get taken to the woodshed once again. He hasn’t earned the dollars he’s been paid so far, why think he’ll earn another overpayment?

 

[al secord]

make a statement about how this team is going to operate moving forward.

Trade Matthews.

It would definitely make a statement. Then maybe sign Matt Stajan and Boyd Devereux. That would also make a statement.

 

[rumman]

I like most of these suggestions. Domi? Hell no. 6 teams in 7 years? No thanks. That's Galchnyuk territory. J.Staal? I think the anti-Pride stuff might not fly with MLSE and just the city of Toronto in general. Although, that was Mark and Eric, not Jordan. Just my assumption that his views are the same as his bros. I could be way off base there. Still, there would be a big bashlash if he tried to pull that here. Just look what's going on with Anthony Bass. Toews? If he's willing to play for Gio money. Just enough so we could bury the contract without cap issues...like 1.2m. Might be a good 3rd, 4th line centre, and a proven winner. Like ROR. Want him back too.

Perfect example of why MLSE are more about PR progressive agendas than icing a good hockey team. I could care less what a player’s views are on any given topic, and having to be participate in something that goes against your beliefs is in itself a from of harassment imo. This woke crap is killing society let alone hockey. Everybody should be allowed the freedom of their own belief, whatever they are……….

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

No idea, but it certainly isn’t impossible. Obviously you want to keep 34, but you haven’t considered the downfalls of doing this, start by realizing:
A: 34 is a elite player he’d have a really high return especially if you could do a sign and trade
B: Leafs can’t afford to let him walk away for nothing
C: Leafs can’t continue to dedicate half their cap to 4 players
D: the name on the front of the jersey is far more important than the name on the back
E: his best hockey might be behind him, want another JT anchor in the coming years?
F: does he really want to stay with the team, and if so will he agree to a reasonable contract? Dubas made sure he has all the power here, Id rather trade him than get taken to the woodshed once again. He hasn’t earned the dollars he’s been paid so far, why think he’ll earn another overpayment?

A is correct
B They won't.
C tell that to Florida 44% of their cap on 4 players it's not half the cap but close enough
D I hear that all the time the 2006-2016 Leafs would like a word with you.
E 80 points last year in 80 games what are you talking about? if that's an anchor then give that anchor every day.
F you pay an MVP level player.

 

[rumman]

A is correct
B They won't.
C tell that to Florida 44% of their cap on 4 players it's not half the cap but close enough
D I hear that all the time the 2006-2016 Leafs would like a word with you.
E 80 points last year in 80 games what are you talking about? if that's an anchor then give that anchor every day.
F you pay an MVP level player.

Your right 44% isn’t 50% and that ratio will be higher if they overpay him. Sadly, your in for a rude awakening when he pulls a Dubas and walks for greener pastures and the Leafs get squat ala Johnny Hockey……..

 

[trellaine201]

I think his first deal will be for a flames player. That's usually what happens when a GM lands a job with a new team. You make a deal with your old team first.

Burke's first deal was for Brad May (Mayday) when he was a duck.

Tanev? Salary might be too high?

 

[Gabriel426]

Any teams can have 50% even 60% or 70% of the cap for four players as long as they win the Cup.

If they are not, it doesn’t mean having 50% or more is wrong, it just means the four players taking up 50% or more are not good enough to carry the team to the Cup. Since the goal is the win the Cup, the team need to assemble a team that win the Cup

 

[notbias]

I think Keefe is going to be asking for Schenn back and that deal might be one of the first.

If Rielly-Schenn can play the way they did in the playoffs, that is an amazing discount top pairing, and gives you some money to improve the 2nd pairing.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Hopefully size and speed on the blueline. I'd actually like Zadorov if we're shopping at Flamesmart. He's improved his overall defensive game and is still an imposing physical presence.

Zadorov looks like an absolute behemoth out there on the ice.

 

[Buds17]

That's my point, you can call almost everybody on this team a Dubas guy.

But there is a difference between Marner being a Dubas guy and Lilly or Timmins being Dubas guys.

I don't think Lilly or Timmins are long for the team.

I thought we were disagreeing on this point...my mistake.

I can somewhat agree that neither Liljegren nor Timmins may be long for the team. At the same time, moving out either or both at this point won't do all that much from a cap perspective.