Value of: What Team will trade for Dubois? Discussion

[Junohockeyfan]

Anyone acquiring him also has to assess how he'll work out in the room and off the ice, not just on the ice. This is true with any player, but some more than others.

As a Leaf fan, would you offer value for him after he professed his desire to play for the Habs?

 

[Gilmour1996]

As a Leaf fan, would you offer value for him after he professed his desire to play for the Habs?

No. Not even for a limited time. I just don't like him as a person.

 

[zcaptain]

No. Not even for a limited time. I just don't like him as a person.

You know him personally? Cool! Ask him why he does not want to play for Toronto.

 

[Donkeyz]

Its not Habs fans that are clamoring for PLD. Its PLD that is clamoring for Montreal and its fans!

Big difference. There may not be a spot for PLD in a year's time. We will see what kind of home-town discount he offers Hughes.


If he wants to be a Hab, then he will wait it out. No need to trade for him now and give up assets. That would be stupid. Habs hold the cards. PLD needs to ask nicely to be a Hab as its not guaranteed.

Did Dubois ever say he wanted to play for the Canadiens, or is it speculation?

 

[MisterT]

The team that would want to trade for "Rental" Dubois will have mid to late 1st, and that itself probably would not be enough. Team are also trying to strengthen their roster, so they really don't want to move a roster player. Then on Winnipeg's side, they want a replacement player that will allow them to compete now, with their remaining core.

I do not see how this improves Winnipeg.

Or Winnipeg takes the assets from a Dubois trade, adds to it marginally, to target a better player

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Did Dubois ever say he wanted to play for the Canadiens, or is it speculation?

He told his agent to get the word out. Then when nothing happened, he attended the draft in Montreal hoping to will a trade to happen. He's a determined little hab fan.

 

[lomiller1]

Did Dubois ever say he wanted to play for the Canadiens, or is it speculation?

His agent has floated it, similar to how Mathew Tkachuck's agent let it be known he wanted to play in St Louis. The notion that he'd never possibly sign anyplace else and would accept a fraction of his market value is all Habs fans wishful thinking.

 

[ole ole]

His agent has floated it, similar to how Mathew Tkachuck's agent let it be known he wanted to play in St Louis. The notion that he'd never possibly sign anyplace else and would accept a fraction of his market value is all Habs fans wishful thinking.

I don't remember Hab fans claiming that he would accept a fraction of his market value.

Usually only trolls come out with that type of fictional comment.
On the notion that he'd never possibly sign anyplace else...All we know is that he claims he would like to sign with the Habs.
Time will tell.

 

[gojetsgo]

Or Winnipeg takes the assets from a Dubois trade, adds to it marginally, to target a better player

I can see that being what the jets end up doing

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I can see that being what the jets end up doing

I think that should be plan A. Because there really shouldn't be a trade available with the Habs.

 

[Nickel eye Heel hers]

Did Dubois ever say he wanted to play for the Canadiens, or is it speculation?

His agent made a comment while being interviewed by a Montreal reporter that the Habs would be a good place for Dubois prior to the Jets last signing.

 

[pth2]

It all comes down to Dubois' intentions... and what his agent has told and will tell GMs when they call once he's an RFA.

He might be saying he only wants to sign long-term with Montreal, he might be saying he's open to many, or only some, cities, for a long-term deal, or he might be saying "12M or forget it" and thinks Montreal is likely to overpay for a local boy.

We just don't have enough information, and trade value depends to a huge extent on unknowable information.

 

[richo]

If there's any justice in the world then whatever team gets Dubois will then hire Tortorella as coach.

 

[zcaptain]

Or Winnipeg takes the assets from a Dubois trade, adds to it marginally, to target a better player

So, they are going to take their under valued assets from the trade and offer who exactly, to trade their Dubois skill level player, for less than they think he is worth?

 

[Tanknation]

I suggested the following:

MTL....................Dubois, and Lekkerimaki
Winnipeg.........Miller and Vancouver's 2026 (top 10 protected) 1st
Vancouver........Dach and Mtl's 2023 1st (currently 7th OA) top 2 protected

Da f***. Long Covid affecting your brain bro. Habs 1st potential Bedard pick, plus our future C for a guy we could wait and have for free?and if not, who cares he got over paid somewhere else in free agency.

This may actually be the worst proposal I have seen on here to date. Congrats.

 

[ole ole]

I can see that being what the jets end up doing

i agree 100%

 

[zcaptain]

Da f***. Long Covid affecting your brain bro. Habs 1st potential Bedard pick, plus our future C for a guy we could wait and have for free?and if not, who cares he got over paid somewhere else in free agency.

This may actually be the worst proposal I have seen on here to date. Congrats.

Yeah, yeah, yeah......................and multi player trades like NHL23 never happen.

Make the 1st top 3 protected.....I mean, I understand the Bedard argument, totally, but especially after today, you had better get while you can, because the east is going to be a slug feast for years....

I would even consider the Florida or the worse of the 2, just to give you more protection...........

You are more worried about insulting me, than having a genuine conversation.

 

[zcaptain]

i agree 100%

And I mean this sincerely..........

Who is out there, that another team wants to move, that has no NTC, and wants to go to Winnipeg?

I get, if it is for futures, but that does not mesh with Winnipeg's window.

I mean, who is out there that is available? For lesser assets.............Volume vs Quality?

 

[elitepete]

PLD for Miller? Canucks can retain 50% for the rest of the year.

 

[RandomJetsFan]

This is very annoying to see how this is playing out I've always tried to respect other fan bases just hard when those trolls come out and say here take our trash for your premium piece oh it's not what you want oh well we can just wait and get him for free next season I really hope when he reaches Ufa then sign with a different team just to watch you hab trolls twist and turn with nothing but bitter and sourness while saying oh well didn't want him in the first place.....I apologize to the other rational fans that aren't here to troll its frustrating watching and cheering for a team with a brat in its system just trade him to flyers for what future package we can get

 

[Coffee]

He’s going to Vancouver

 

[NewEraGM]

Habs can send Armia and Hoffman over for PLD.

We won’t offer more since we’ll just sign him in FA

 

[Fainting Couch]

This is very annoying to see how this is playing out I've always tried to respect other fan bases just hard when those trolls come out and say here take our trash for your premium piece oh it's not what you want oh well we can just wait and get him for free next season I really hope when he reaches Ufa then sign with a different team just to watch you hab trolls twist and turn with nothing but bitter and sourness while saying oh well didn't want him in the first place.....I apologize to the other rational fans that aren't here to troll its frustrating watching and cheering for a team with a brat in its system just trade him to flyers for what future package we can get

Menopause post of the week, not a period to be found!

 

[Tanknation]

Yeah, yeah, yeah......................and multi player trades like NHL23 never happen.

Make the 1st top 3 protected.....I mean, I understand the Bedard argument, totally, but especially after today, you had better get while you can, because the east is going to be a slug feast for years....

I would even consider the Florida or the worse of the 2, just to give you more protection...........

You are more worried about insulting me, than having a genuine conversation.

No, it's just a terrible proposal.

 

[Voight]

I dont think it's a foregone conclusion that Dubois will only sign in Montreal at all.


I'd bet if a team like Tampa was willing to give him good money on an 8 year deal he'd be happy to head to sunshine and the beaches instead.

Agreed.

Honestly half the time Player X is "guaranteed" to sign with their hometown team..... I find it rarely happens.