Value of: What Team will trade for Dubois? Discussion

[Habs Halifax]

Agreed.

Honestly half the time Player X is "guaranteed" to sign with their hometown team..... I find it rarely happens.

It happens at times but it's not that typical. However, Dubois's situation is different because his actual agent said he would like to play for the Habs.

And there is too much context to ignore in this case. I'm not 100% he comes to the Habs in the next 2 years but I'm around 60-80%. If there was little context other than him being from Montreal, I'd have lower % but once again, there is too much information that was released to ignore it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah......................and multi player trades like NHL23 never happen.

Make the 1st top 3 protected.....I mean, I understand the Bedard argument, totally, but especially after today, you had better get while you can, because the east is going to be a slug feast for years....

I would even consider the Florida or the worse of the 2, just to give you more protection...........

You are more worried about insulting me, than having a genuine conversation.

Trade is not happening until after the season ends and at that point, we will know where both our pick and the Panthers pick is. This is likely a draft day trade.

I wonder what happens if the Panthers pick wins one of the lotteries. Small chance but lets say it happens. Then what? Habs have 1 or 2 and the 8th pick? I'm open to trading a pick from 12-18 range but I'm not trading the 8th pick. Then we get into a situation where other teams could trade for his one last RFA year and they will try to use late 1st rounders and B+ prospect. Habs would be in a bidding war with those types of offers so we may decide to take our chances he reaches UFA.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

I think Colorado should offer Newhook and Byram for PLD if they can convince him to sign there.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I think Colorado should offer Newhook and Byram for PLD if they can convince him to sign there.

Avs are a team I do worry about as a Habs fan. They need a center behind MacKinnon. Girard and Newhook with a possible 1st would get the deal done. If Dubois is open to an extension. Dubois's cap hit would be similar to Girard/Newhook added together moving forward.

One thing I noticed is Connor was typically on Dubois wing for most of the season up until lately. Bowness came into this season saying he will do whatever he can do convince him to stay and one of those things was to put Connor on his wing I would imagine (not a bad plan if you ask me). However, we have seen reports lately saying Dubois has not changed his mind and Connor is now playing with Scheifele. Jets likely tried to get get him to extend and he still refused, so they have come to grips with reality?

I wonder about the chances of the Jets trading Dubois at this deadline? Doesn't seem likely and there is no talk about it but these things can develop out of nowhere at times.

 

[tbcwpg]

I predict this gets closed just like the other one. It's already starting the same way.

 

[Lockin17]

Habs first pick #6 2023 for Dubois straight up.
Debrincas got traded in a way worse draft for #7

 

[Habs Halifax]

Habs first pick #6 2023 for Dubois straight up.
Debrincas got traded in a way worse draft for #7

Debrincat had two RFA years of team control with no rumors of him wanting to play for a certain team. Dubois will have one RFA year left with rumors of him wanting to play for the Habs.

It's not the same. Habs are not trading a top 10 pick for Dubois. Panthers pick maybe (12-18 range)

I predict this gets closed just like the other one. It's already starting the same way.

Why is it getting closed? Cause the Habs are the team most interested and we are not willing to pay the high price the Jets fans want? Seems petty to me. Blame the Habs all you want but your GM is the one who traded for Dubois who wanted out of Columbus and thought he could get him to extend in Winnipeg. Habs tried to trade for him when he wanted out of Columbus but we didn't have a Laine/Rost to offer. Should have traded Laine for someone who had more team control bud.

 

[Boonk]

Debrincat had two RFA years of team control with no rumors of him wanting to play for a certain team. Dubois will have one RFA year left with rumors of him wanting to play for the Habs.

It's not the same. Habs are not trading a top 10 pick for Dubois. Panthers pick maybe (12-18 range)



Why is it getting close? Cause the Habs are the team most interested and we are not willing to pay the high price the Jets fans want? Seems petty to me. Blame the Habs all you want but your GM is the one who traded for Dubois who wanted out of Columbus and thought he could get him to extend in Winnipeg. Habs tried to trade for him when he wanted out of Columbus but we didn't have a Laine/Rost to offer. Should have traded Laine for someone who had more team control bud.

no one is taking the Habs fans dogshit offers bud. Plenty of other suitors can and will pay assets and money to PLD the Habs won’t, at least according to armchair HFHabs gms. You’d be delusional to think he won’t go somewhere else if/when it really comes down to it.

 

[Habs Halifax]

no one is taking the Habs fans dogshit offers bud. Plenty of other suitors can and will pay assets and money to PLD the Habs won’t, at least according to armchair HFHabs gms. You’d be delusional to think he won’t go somewhere else if/when it really comes down to it.

Panthers 1st as the prime piece is not dogshit offers. Nice try. You're delusional if you think Dubois with one RFA year left after this year gets more than Horvat or Trouba type trades.

Go get upset on your GM. He is the one who traded Laine/Rost for Dubois thinking he will extend. Dubois asked out of Columbus and wanted to be be traded to the Habs and you intervened.

 

[Lockin17]

no one is taking the Habs fans dogshit offers bud. Plenty of other suitors can and will pay assets and money to PLD the Habs won’t, at least according to armchair HFHabs gms. You’d be delusional to think he won’t go somewhere else if/when it really comes down to it.

IF PLD wants to pull a Tavares move no team will pay big assets for him ,,,

 

[tbcwpg]

Debrincat had two RFA years of team control with no rumors of him wanting to play for a certain team. Dubois will have one RFA year left with rumors of him wanting to play for the Habs.

It's not the same. Habs are not trading a top 10 pick for Dubois. Panthers pick maybe (12-18 range)



Why is it getting closed? Cause the Habs are the team most interested and we are not willing to pay the high price the Jets fans want? Seems petty to me. Blame the Habs all you want but your GM is the one who traded for Dubois who wanted out of Columbus and thought he could get him to extend in Winnipeg. Habs tried to trade for him when he wanted out of Columbus but we didn't have a Laine/Rost to offer. Should have traded Laine for someone who had more team control bud.

I don't know why the last one was closed but my strong suspicion is that it was closed because the discussion was going nowhere. Circular discussion posts usually end up getting closed.

I'm not getting into another debate about Dubois with you that will last 5 pages and just goes in a circle. Have fun.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

His agent has floated it, similar to how Mathew Tkachuck's agent let it be known he wanted to play in St Louis. The notion that he'd never possibly sign anyplace else and would accept a fraction of his market value is all Habs fans wishful thinking.

Its not just what Brisson said what about all the other reporters saying its well known PLD wants to go the the Habs or Jets reporter saying PLD telling hes entourage he wants to go the Montreal people acting like this rumour started only after hes agent comments..... PLD to Habs have been a thing since Columbus,Winnipeg thought they could extend him because of hes dad but that didnt work out Dubois will be a Hab the only question is if he will be one this summer or next one

Hughes and Brisson for sure talked in the summer

 

[Boonk]

Panthers 1st as the prime piece is not dogshit offers. Nice try. You're delusional if you think Dubois with one RFA year left after this year gets more than Horvat or Trouba type trades.

Go get upset on your GM. He is the one who traded Laine/Rost for Dubois thinking he will extend. Dubois asked out of Columbus and wanted to be be traded to the Habs and you intervened.

Dubois is better than either Horvat or Trouba and players a far more valuable position than DeBrincat even with 1 RFA year. He absolutely would get more pieces from another buyer and would probably get more money too. It’s not even a debate.

But hey apparently logic is delusional.

 

[Hunter368]

We literally just finished a PLD thread with over 16,000 views and more then 1000 posts, its all been said for now until likely after the season is over before we get more news. This is the TDL period, nothing will happen with PLD for months at the earliest and potentially 1.5 years. Nothing new can be added at this point, this horse has been beaten to death 10 times over........for now.