What probability do you feel Ovechkin has to catch Gretzky now? (Part 2)

[deckercky]

I don't expect this to actually happen, but if it did... under this context... "legendary" isn't a strong enough word. That would be way up there in terms of unforgettable single-season runs.

Agreed - it would be epic given the era.

30 years after the last 50 in 50, Ovechkin, as a 36 year old, accomplishes 50 in 50 in an era where players other than Ovechkin only score 50 in 82 every other season.

 

[HFBS]

Why? He's an exciting player who makes the game fun, and his consistency is second to none.

Because he's dirty and a huge supporter of the dictator Putin. That's why.

 

[Oleksiak]

Because he's dirty and a huge supporter of the dictator Putin. That's why.

How do you feel about Gordie Howe?

 

[TheGreatOne11]

It's a selfish shitty reason, but it's also the truth. I am Canadian, and I'd love for the three biggest records to stay with a Canadian.

Goals, Assists and Points.

But in all honesty age would have to hit Ovie like a mack truck for him to not break this record, which is possible since scoring is the hardest thing to do in this league, I kept thinking it was going to come but he proves me wrong every year.

So I will be rooting against him, for my selfish Canadian loving reasons, but that doesn't mean I don't respect him and I will never belittle such an achievement.

If he does it at least I can say I witnessed it, but I still hope he doesn't, because I truly love the Legend of Wayne Gretzky.

 

[kugelbahn]

It's a selfish shitty reason, but it's also the truth. I am Canadian, and I'd love for the three biggest records to stay with a Canadian.

Goals, Assists and Points.

But in all honesty age would have to hit Ovie like a mack truck for him to not break this record, which is possible since scoring is the hardest thing to do in this league, I kept thinking it was going to come but he proves me wrong every year.

So I will be rooting against him, for my selfish Canadian loving reasons, but that doesn't mean I don't respect him and I will never belittle such an achievement.

If he does it at least I can say I witnessed it, but I still hope he doesn't, because I truly love the Legend of Wayne Gretzky.

Wane is legend for sure, no doubt for anyone.

His records were in the era where large majority of players were Canadian. So those records belong to Canadians, who else?

This is completely different era, environment and different level competition. There is no definite answer who is GOAT goalscorer, both have a claim.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Dude's unstoppable. I say 90% he does it based on his start this season. I can't remember a player like him that you simply can't stop. He just scores. You just deal with it.

 

[HFBS]

How do you feel about Gordie Howe?

Howe supported Putin?

 

[Oleksiak]

Howe supported Putin?

He was dirty as hell. Supporting Putin is pretty smart for Russian players who may wish to work in hockey back home after they're retired. It is what it is, but I respect your opinion.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Has there ever been a more prolific goal scorer that was so boring. Early on in his career he use to score highlight reel goals. Now I watch the highlights and every goal is the same. He might end up with the most goals all time but there will be ten plus players with better highlights

He's 36. You aren't going to score many highlight goals at that age.

When his career is done he'll have awesome highlights. They'll just be from when he was in his prime. That's how it is with almost every player.

 

[YippieKaey]

Because he's dirty and a huge supporter of the dictator Putin. That's why.

Not saying Putin is a good guy(quite the opposite) but Putin kills a hell of a lot less people than any American president. So if we're going to bring up all players political views i think noone will be happy and we'd have to fold the league.

I also do not like Putin but Ovi is still a very entertaining, skilled and legendary hockey player. He can be dirty but all winners are when they have the chance.

 

[McFlash97]

60 %

 

[tenken00]

Just think about it when it's last 10-30 goals to record. Every arena he scores going to be buzzing. And everybody definitely count them loud and clear. That is exciting thing to wait.

Imagine ticket prices at every stadium and arenas in the NHL the year it becomes plausible that Ovie breaks the record.

 

[Midnight Judges]

It's a selfish shitty reason, but it's also the truth. I am Canadian, and I'd love for the three biggest records to stay with a Canadian.

Goals, Assists and Points.

But in all honesty age would have to hit Ovie like a mack truck for him to not break this record, which is possible since scoring is the hardest thing to do in this league, I kept thinking it was going to come but he proves me wrong every year.

So I will be rooting against him, for my selfish Canadian loving reasons, but that doesn't mean I don't respect him and I will never belittle such an achievement.

If he does it at least I can say I witnessed it, but I still hope he doesn't, because I truly love the Legend of Wayne Gretzky.

Yep, that is shitty!

Canada pioneered a wonderful game. It caught on in foreign counties. There is a player who fell in love with the game as a child and made it into his life's work. He brings unbridled love, enthusiasm, and positive energy to the game for two decades. But instead of embracing this player for loving the same thing you are a fan of, you are instead bitter because he wasn't born in your area of the world - something none of us have any control over.

It's irrational, at best. Nativism and nationalism are based on a similar logic to racism or homophobia - you oppose someone due to perceived differences you both had no control over.

You seem to be aware of how small-minded that stuff is. The fact that you are not in denial presents you with an opportunity that lesser people (who remain in eternal denial) could never achieve: Why not just drop it from your operating system?

 

[JasonRoseEh]

Howe supported Putin?

Your reasons suck and you sound like a hater, also let's not act like Putin is the worst thing in the world because if you do that shows your naivety about the world and politics in general. Stay off CNN man.

I swear Ovechkin haters have to be the most vocal bunch of people in hockey fandom and the only reason I can see why is simply xenophobia. It's a term I hate using but that's all it has to be because he isn't remotely a dirty player at all and using that as a reason is lame.

 

[Firsov99]

Howe supported Putin?

What's the point of bringing this in? It's a hockey board.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I hope not, but I can't see him quitting until he does it

 

[Avaholic29]

Because he's dirty and a huge supporter of the dictator Putin. That's why.

Who cares where his political support aligns lol..
He’s the best goal scorer to ever live. That’s like me saying I hope American hockey players don’t succeed cause they support a president that abandoned other Americans in Afghanistan. I’m not even sure why your first thought is putin to discredit a hockey players achievement.

 

[Oleksiak]

Yep, that is shitty!

Canada pioneered a wonderful game. It caught on in foreign counties. There is a player who fell in love with the game as a child and made it into his life's work. He brings unbridled love, enthusiasm, and positive energy to the game for two decades. But instead of embracing this player for loving the same thing you are a fan of, you are instead bitter because he wasn't born in your area of the world - something none of us have any control over.

It's irrational, at best. Nativism and nationalism are based on a similar logic to racism or homophobia - you oppose someone due to perceived differences you both had no control over.

You seem to be aware of how small-minded that stuff is. The fact that you are not in denial presents you with an opportunity that lesser people (who remain in eternal denial) could never achieve: Why not just drop it from your operating system?

I'll also argue that he plays like a Canadian. Sad people still think like this.

 

[HurricaneFanatic]

I want to say I hope he doesn't, only because I love the history of the older days. Then I realize Hank Aaron doesn't have the cool factor that Babe had. So I guess Gretzky would probably still be remembered more fondly over time.

Will still be the points leader by wide margin.
I was hoping Pujols would catch Bonds, but COVID 2020 killed what slim chance was left.

 

[Stuzchuk]

There have been about 7500 skaters in the NHL since the league started. Of those 7500, only 5 have more goals, and that number will soon be 4. And there are posters here saying he isn’t one of the best players ever???

still Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux, Howe to me... goal scorer debatable vs. the Great One

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Has there ever been a more prolific goal scorer that was so boring. Early on in his career he use to score highlight reel goals. Now I watch the highlights and every goal is the same. He might end up with the most goals all time but there will be ten plus players with better highlights

He might be the GOAT but there are more exciting sheep

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

It's a selfish shitty reason, but it's also the truth. I am Canadian, and I'd love for the three biggest records to stay with a Canadian.

Goals, Assists and Points.

But in all honesty age would have to hit Ovie like a mack truck for him to not break this record, which is possible since scoring is the hardest thing to do in this league, I kept thinking it was going to come but he proves me wrong every year.

So I will be rooting against him, for my selfish Canadian loving reasons, but that doesn't mean I don't respect him and I will never belittle such an achievement.

If he does it at least I can say I witnessed it, but I still hope he doesn't, because I truly love the Legend of Wayne Gretzky.

I believe Ovi breaking the goal record doesn’t take anything away from Gretzky’s status and greatness in general.

No matter how many goals Ovi scores, he will still retire with fewer points than 99 had assists. That in itself sums up 99’s greatness. Even if Ovi breaks the record, I don’t believe Gretzky will ever fall lower than 2nd place in all time rankings of that category, because Ovi’s pretty much the only man in existence capable of breaking that record.

 

[McShogun99]

Ovi is going to hit 1000 goals by the age of 40.

 

[HurricaneFanatic]

Ovi is going to hit 1000 goals by the age of 40.

Wanna bet? Motivation is done at 895 at 39 or 40 years old.

 

[Sentinel]

Toews? You cant seriously be comparing Backstrom to Toews? The guy leads the entire league, which means Crosby, during his career in assists and he needs to be better?

Read carefully. Even Toews was not overshadowed by Kane. Malkinwas not overshadowed by Crosby. Backstrom was very much outshadowed by Ovechkin.