What probability do you feel Ovechkin has to catch Gretzky now? (Part 2)

[Sentinel]

It's a selfish shitty reason, but it's also the truth. I am Canadian, and I'd love for the three biggest records to stay with a Canadian.

Goals, Assists and Points.

But in all honesty age would have to hit Ovie like a mack truck for him to not break this record, which is possible since scoring is the hardest thing to do in this league, I kept thinking it was going to come but he proves me wrong every year.

So I will be rooting against him, for my selfish Canadian loving reasons, but that doesn't mean I don't respect him and I will never belittle such an achievement.

If he does it at least I can say I witnessed it, but I still hope he doesn't, because I truly love the Legend of Wayne Gretzky.

The Legend of Wayne Gretzky will very much survive. He will keep his other 60 records.

 

[Syckle78]

Read carefully. Even Toews was not overshadowed by Kane. Malkinwas not overshadowed by Crosby. Backstrom was very much outshadowed by Ovechkin.

I don't see how you can argue Malkin wasn't over shadowed when he was left off things like the best 100 players list and guys like Toews made it ahead of him. He had a great career and achieved plenty of accolades but he didn't get the recognition he would have had he not been playing behind Crosby.

 

[Johnnybegood13]

Even if he stays healthy his twitch muscles will go in about 2 years, when that happens his reaction times will slow to a halt, his shot will be only good when given a lot of time to get it off, without a doubt he's the best goal scorer ever but father time gets everyone, I say he misses by 40 goals.

 

[Paperbagofglory]

Even if he stays healthy his twitch muscles will go in about 2 years, when that happens his reaction times will slow to a halt, his shot will be only good when given a lot of time to get it off, without a doubt he's the best goal scorer ever but father time gets everyone, I say he misses by 40 goals.

Tom Brady is still the best QB at age 52. People underestimate how good the legends are because they remember them when they were even better. Ovie is still the best scorer despite being old. Hes not a highlight real machine anymore but he plays more efficiently thanks to experience. Scoring is still easy for him. If Selanne can get over 30 goals at age 40 then Ovie can easily match that feat.

 

[HFBS]

What's the point of bringing this in? It's a hockey board.

Because someone asked me why I don't want to see him break records and that's the reason. All Putin's enemies around the world mysteriously wind up dead and that's OK but calling someone an offensive name garners outrage.

 

[alphabetical]

his twitch muscles will go in about 2 years

Please provide the basis for this belief. You're very specific, and it sounds made up.

 

[Firsov99]

Because someone asked me why I don't want to see him break records and that's the reason. All Putin's enemies around the world mysteriously wind up dead and that's OK but calling someone an offensive name garners outrage.

The world is much more complicated than you think. All the best.

 

[TJHKY]

Ovi will break record and score 900 goals, then he will retired.

 

[ottawa]

Tom Brady is still the best QB at age 52. People underestimate how good the legends are because they remember them when they were even better. Ovie is still the best scorer despite being old. Hes not a highlight real machine anymore but he plays more efficiently thanks to experience. Scoring is still easy for him. If Selanne can get over 30 goals at age 40 then Ovie can easily match that feat.

Is this a joke that I just don't understand lol

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Is this a joke that I just don't understand lol

Its called hyperbole. Look it up.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Because someone asked me why I don't want to see him break records and that's the reason. All Putin's enemies around the world mysteriously wind up dead and that's OK but calling someone an offensive name garners outrage.

I'm not sure Ovie really has a choice - which makes him no different from any other Russian citizen.

 

[JasonRoseEh]

Because someone asked me why I don't want to see him break records and that's the reason. All Putin's enemies around the world mysteriously wind up dead and that's OK but calling someone an offensive name garners outrage.

Stay off CNN dude, seriously, it's messing you up. There are no good people in politics and Putin is tame compared to leaders of past eras. This is a hockey board.

 

[HFBS]

Stay off CNN dude, seriously, it's messing you up. There are no good people in politics and Putin is tame compared to leaders of past eras. This is a hockey board.

I don't watch CNN no matter how many times you say it. Nice make believe rooskie avatar.

 

[2 others]

Is this a joke that I just don't understand lol

I thought Brady is almost 60

 

[Sentinel]

I'm not sure Ovie really has a choice - which makes him no different from any other Russian citizen.

There are plenty of Russian citizens who do NOT support Putin. Hell, his colleague Panarin doesn't.

 

[bigtim1988]

I'd be more surprised if he didn't break Gretzky's career goal total record at this point.

barring a major injury, he breaks the record sometime during the 2024-2025 season

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

I'd be more surprised if he didn't break Gretzky's career goal total record at this point.

barring a major injury, he breaks the record sometime during the 2024-2025 season

Easier said than done (he’ll probably hit around 850). All the pieces have to fall into place for it to happen and it can get derailed easily with an injury or steep decline from father age catching up. Hope he does it though!

 

[Jets4Life]

Tom Brady is still the best QB at age 52. People underestimate how good the legends are because they remember them when they were even better. Ovie is still the best scorer despite being old. Hes not a highlight real machine anymore but he plays more efficiently thanks to experience. Scoring is still easy for him. If Selanne can get over 30 goals at age 40 then Ovie can easily match that feat.

Brady is 44, not 52. You're thinking of Gordie Howe.

 

[Randyne]

I don't watch CNN

Is there any difference whatever you are watching?

 

[Roshi]

There are plenty of Russian citizens who do NOT support Putin. Hell, his colleague Panarin doesn't.

And you think its coincedence that first Wilson severely attacked and almost killed Panarin..

and that he only has 2 goals this season so far...

 

[Khomutov]

There are plenty of Russian citizens who do NOT support Putin. Hell, his colleague Panarin doesn't.

Panarin is one of the few. Malkin, Kovalchuk and the most other superstars are fans of Putin. I personally don't like it.

But these guys are hockey players and that should matter first in a hockey forum.

 

[BallardEra]

Would be insane if he hits 50 this year at the age of 36.

That would bring him to 780 total career goals.

 

[Mulletman]

One thing to consider, Ovie is 35, will be 36 in September. 7 goals in 19 games is not very Ovechkin-like and he's not looked like himself this year. Granted, a lot of players his age are "losing it". Crosby, Malkin come to mind also as not playing the best hockey this year. Part of it could be age, and we saw similar things like this after 2004 and 2012 lockouts where a player in his 30s quite often just can't afford to have this much time taken off at this age and get back to his past play. He is at the 2017 level where he had 33 goals in 82 games, before ringing off Rocket Richard trophies the last three years. You never want to count him out, or say that perhaps his goal scoring is drying up (to his standards) but he hasn't looked the same this year.

So, how about now?! Ovechkin has 10 goals in 10 games this year, while Matthews and Laine have 3 and Pastrnak who tarnished Ovechkin's legacy has only 2 goals. Will Ovechkin win another Rocket this year? Will Ovechkin score 50 goals this season? Will Ovechkin return to 90 points for the first time in 12 years? And is it time to admit that Ovechkin will pass Gretzky in career goals yet?!

 

[Nsjohnson]

Even if he stays healthy his twitch muscles will go in about 2 years, when that happens his reaction times will slow to a halt, his shot will be only good when given a lot of time to get it off, without a doubt he's the best goal scorer ever but father time gets everyone, I say he misses by 40 goals.

No. It will slowly decline. No drop off. He's an elite athlete, with elite world class neuromuscular coordination.

Salanne, etc declined but they still retain their strengths, and in Ovechkin's case, his is his shot.

Pass him the puck, he's crushing it past goalies to age 50.

 

[BallardEra]

Assuming he hits 50 this year then this would give him 780 career goals.

That means he would need to average 28.5 goals per season over the last 4 years of his contract to hit 894 goals.