What is wrong with Mcdavid?

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TheUnusedCrayon

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He's been playing well but his team sucks. Often times when this happens he tries a bit too hard to carry and it actually leads to less points because he becomes too individualistic.

He's been more than fine. He had stretches last year of looking the exact same.
 
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Karma.

He led his team last year to make a point of showing up Chicago in a blowout with their EBUG party. Such lack of class.

(compare that to the classy Canucks team last night)
 

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According to Oilers fans. You got:

100pt man in RNH
80pt Hyman
High end scorer Kane

Oilers are missing Klim Kostin big time. He was their best bottom 6 guy last year who could play on the top 2 lines if needed.
RNH, Hyman and Kane are their top 6. Compare their forward group to Canucks and you will notice why Canucks are the highest scoring team in the league with 46 goals now. They have their Pettersson and Miller to McDavid and Drai but then the rest of Oilers falls short. Canucks have 2 lethal snipers aside from their 2 best forwards in Kuzmenko and Boeser who are young and proven. Then they have speedy Mikheyev, and young Digeseuppe which brings grit. Then you go down further into the lineup and still have Garland who had 50 to 60 points per year during the past 3 or 4 years playing and beauvillier who is a streaky goal scorer that can play in top 6 in their bottom 6. Then there is Pius Suter and Lafferty good for 10 to 15 goals, Hoglander who has improved and has skills to eventually be a top 6 forward in the future. Add good PKers in Blueger, Joshua, Aman who is not playing right now. Then dig deeper and you still have Podkolzin and Bains in the farm who are NHL ready imo.
 

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RNH, Hyman and Kane are their top 6. Compare their forward group to Canucks and you will notice why Canucks are the highest scoring team in the league with 46 goals now. They have their Pettersson and Miller to McDavid and Drai but then the rest of Oilers falls short. Canucks have 2 lethal snipers aside from their 2 best forwards in Kuzmenko and Boeser who are young and proven. Then they have speedy Mikheyev, and young Digeseuppe which brings grit. Then you go down further into the lineup and still have Garland who had 50 to 60 points per year during the past 3 or 4 years playing and beauvillier who is a streaky goal scorer that can play in top 6 in their bottom 6. Then there is Pius Suter and Lafferty good for 10 to 15 goals, Hoglander who has improved and has skills to eventually be a top 6 forward in the future. Add good PKers in Blueger, Joshua, Aman who is not playing right now. Then dig deeper and you still have Podkolzin and Bains in the farm who are NHL ready imo.
The canucks are the highest scoring team in the league because EVERYTHING is going in for them right now. They’re shooting 16.1%, which is 3.4% clear of the next best team (and 4.3% clear of the best season long number last year, which was the oilers who as we have established, have mcdavid). It’s wildly unsustainable.

I’m not saying they don’t have good forwards, but they absolutely don’t have the best forward corps in the league, and definitely not one that is gonna shoot 16% this year
 

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I think he might be depressed as reality is setting in that he will never win a Cup in Edmonton.

Maybe closer to the truth than you suspect. The window was wide open for the Oilers in 22-23, but they couldn't even get out of the second round, and the personnel did not get any better during the summer. Plus, the NHL now has a cute new puppy in Bedard to highlight, and McDavid is now that old hound sent to stay in the backyard and mostly forgotten, which probably bugs him. So, very likely McDavid is now just killing time until he can flee to a team that has a realistic chance of being Cup contenders, see also Draisatl.
 

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Do you have any idea just how f***ing good you gotta be to have 9 pts in 7 games and yet it’s considered a “slow start”….
Oilers fans blaming McDavid who has 9 points in 7 games is asinine. If they were a true cup contender, then they would not be so reliant on McDavid. They rely so much on McDavid that when he is not 100% playing at his potential with Drai, they will lose games. Oilers have only 5 goal scorers: McDavid, Drai, RNH, Hyman and Kane. I don't think that's enough to win a cup even if 2 of that 5 is the best players in this league. Look at Vegas and Dallas and you will see they have more than 5 NHL goal scorers
The canucks are the highest scoring team in the league because EVERYTHING is going in for them right now. They’re shooting 16.1%, which is 3.4% clear of the next best team (and 4.3% clear of the best season long number last year, which was the oilers who as we have established, have mcdavid). It’s wildly unsustainable.

I’m not saying they don’t have good forwards, but they absolutely don’t have the best forward corps in the league, and definitely not one that is gonna shoot 16% this year
Are you part of the PDO crowd that think you can have 50 shots and you score more?? Canucks had 30 shots last night and scored 10 goals but could have 15 if they tried and didn't miss some of their chances. The Canucks are not the type of shoot the puck from anywhere team like Calgary or Edmonton. They hold on to the puck and like to keep possession and only shoot when they see an opening. So this unsustainable PDO bullcrap is not applicable to every team.
 
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I see some Canuck delusion 10 games into the season. Don’t blame them, I’d milk it too.

McDavid isn’t the problem with the Oilers. The whole collective unit is underperforming. Unforced errors, lack of coverage and no finish in the o-zone. Fortunately, we’re 10 games in.

I’ll panic at 20 games but the last few games have already been better on the ice relative to the first 5-6 so things should even out.
 

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He’s very much injured, he’s not even taking faceoffs

When he plays w draisaitl, draisaitl usually takes the draws. I havent watched every oilers game but ive watched most and its been a mc/drai line most of the time. Not sure why woodcroft has loaded them up at the beginning of games.
 

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I see some Canuck delusion 10 games into the season. Don’t blame them, I’d milk it too.

McDavid isn’t the problem with the Oilers. The whole collective unit is underperforming. Unforced errors, lack of coverage and no finish in the o-zone. Fortunately, we’re 10 games in.

I’ll panic at 20 games but the last few games have already been better on the ice relative to the first 5-6 so things should even out.
You say delusions but look at last year's western Conference and divisional standing after the first 10 games and compared to final standings. They look similar. The only delusional fans are the ones thinking losing 7 games in regulation time is fine, and they can easily catch up lol. Once you go 2-7 or 2-8, it's tough to make up ground unless you go on a 20 game heater. Fact of the matter is that it is hard to play catch-up in the NHL even if you are a good team.
 
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When he plays w draisaitl, draisaitl usually takes the draws. I havent watched every oilers game but ive watched most and its been a mc/drai line most of the time. Not sure why woodcroft has loaded them up at the beginning of games.
Even on the PP when Draisaitl was getting waived out, Nuge was taking them
 

jackjohnson

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When he plays w draisaitl, draisaitl usually takes the draws. I havent watched every oilers game but ive watched most and its been a mc/drai line most of the time. Not sure why woodcroft has loaded them up at the beginning of games.
I think woodyboy is on the chopping blocks if the Oilers keep losing.
 

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My intel says that this issue cannot be fixed in one or two weeks. They are even not sure if it‘s fixable without surgery… at the moment he trys to play through it…

In case they will not improve, mcd will be shut down for the season by xmas…

Mark my words
 

PuckG

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You say delusions but look at last year's western Conference and divisional standing after the first 10 games and compared to final standings. They look similar. The only delusional fans are the ones thinking losing 7 games in regulation time is fine, and they can easily catch up lol. Once you go 2-7 or 2-8, it's tough to make up ground unless you go on a 20 game heater. Fact of the matter is that it is hard to play catch-up in the NHL even if you are a good team.
You’re all over the place mate. Again, spouting nonsense 8-9 games into a season is delusional. You believing PDO applies to every team except the Canucks is delusional.

I also never stated anything would be easy. The Oilers have a hard hill to climb and that’s if they can even get their head out of their ass.
 

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He came back early from injury and is clearly still battling. Guy will find his top form in a little bit when he finally hits top gear.
 

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Maybe closer to the truth than you suspect. The window was wide open for the Oilers in 22-23, but they couldn't even get out of the second round, and the personnel did not get any better during the summer. Plus, the NHL now has a cute new puppy in Bedard to highlight, and McDavid is now that old hound sent to stay in the backyard and mostly forgotten, which probably bugs him. So, very likely McDavid is now just killing time until he can flee to a team that has a realistic chance of being Cup contenders, see also Draisatl.
Also I think the fact that McDavid has not won anything in the chl or the NHL is starting to come to the light. When bedard was drafted the analysts were comparing him to Crosby while he was putting on his jersey not mcdavid. It seems the hope for bedard is to follow in crosbys footsteps which is obv much better to be a winner.
 

jackjohnson

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You’re all over the place mate. Again, spouting nonsense 8-9 games into a season is delusional. You believing PDO applies to every team except the Canucks is delusional.

I also never stated anything would be easy. The Oilers have a hard hill to climb and that’s if they can even get their head out of their ass.
I said PDO is a dumb stat, maybe useful for sports like baseball. Calgary keeps outshooting other teams yet they miss the playoffs last year and will miss it again this year. There goes your PDO theory lol. The Canucks are a possession and passing team, they aren't going to shoot 50 every game because they cycle very well and have elite passers.

Also the first 10 games are really important in how your season might go. 20 game mark is probably a better indication but it you lose the first 10 games like SJ, you think they will make the playoffs? Heck no
 
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