What is Morgan Rielly
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But at least Barrie is decent on the PP. Rielly is atrocious at everything except skating with the puck between bluelines. Once inside the defensive or offensive zone he is useless. The guy has such low IQ, has no understanding of positioning or gap control, brings zero physical elements and can’t even shoot. The team just bleeds goals when he is on the ice. He was -3 again last night. You just can’t have players like this play 20 plus minutes a night and expect to win. The only way to get rid of him at this this point is for the fan base to turn on him and give him the Larry Murphy treatment. But this will never happen, the majority still think he is a top pairing quality defender who is on a bargain contract. I’ve been a Leaf fan for 40 plus years and have never seen a player so overrated. 8 Mo years of this oh man.
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Game 6 last time we played Boston it was the Reilly show all 3rd period. Puck was on his stick all period. Forwards let him down not finishing.
Sleep on Rielly If you want. Only thing that sucks is he has no shot. We needed someone like Chychrun to slap home a few goals just standing there and taking a pass.
But for some reason if I ask for physical guys I get accused of wanting scrub over skill and if I ask for dynamic players in the league I get accused of not seeing the chess game Dubas is playing with the scrubs of the league
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Rielly’s new deal is fair for what he typically has been. He didn’t press for Nurse-like money.
That being said he has not been typical this year, definitely a down year and struggles. Not the first player to have a down year, especially after signing a big contract.
That being said he’s fully capable of rebounding. So the overreactions are a bit much. Look at Nylander and Marner, they had similar post big contract struggles. The thought the Leafs should have dealt them then is a bit silly now in hindsight. This extends to Matthews too.
But the argument of should they have re-signed him or restructured the D-core is another topic. The idea of a subpar defensive D-man that relies on skating holding up into his 30’s is risky.
That being said he has not been typical this year, definitely a down year and struggles. Not the first player to have a down year, especially after signing a big contract.
That being said he’s fully capable of rebounding. So the overreactions are a bit much. Look at Nylander and Marner, they had similar post big contract struggles. The thought the Leafs should have dealt them then is a bit silly now in hindsight. This extends to Matthews too.
But the argument of should they have re-signed him or restructured the D-core is another topic. The idea of a subpar defensive D-man that relies on skating holding up into his 30’s is risky.
On paper, I would have taken Ekholm over Rielly and just use Sandin in the Rielly role. Rielly is a liability defensively when he's not on his game. I like Sandin's decision making on the powerplay a bit more and he seems to have better positional awareness on defence. I'm not surprised he had 3 points in his first game with Washington. I like his toolbox better.
Something like this would have been really good.
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Clark4Ever
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It’s funny that a component of this fanbase has convinced themselves Rielly cannot shoot worth a damn. I’d encourage you to go look at this career highlight again. As for point shots specifically, he does not have a bomb, and I’m sure we’d all love one on the PP especially, but he’s very good at getting wrist shots through traffic and onto the net. He’s become underrated in this regard because people want big slap shots from him which has never been in his shot selection and still never stopped him from being effective and a key cog in one of the leagues best powerplays
His defense leaves something to be desired but it’s overblown a lot of the time. It can be really bad when he’s off, but it’s usually more than adequate. Paired with a solid stay at home defenseman, he’s a clear asset to this team and has consistently raised his game come the postseason
His defense leaves something to be desired but it’s overblown a lot of the time. It can be really bad when he’s off, but it’s usually more than adequate. Paired with a solid stay at home defenseman, he’s a clear asset to this team and has consistently raised his game come the postseason
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Rielly vs bottom 7 team
1 goal 11 assist in 13+/- -11
Pace 6 goal 69 assist and +/- of -89
Against rest of NHL
1 goal 19 assist in 35 game +6
Pace of 2 goal 45 assist and + 14
At the end, i just think rielly like rest of the core just cheat offensivly against trash team but played like he have to do against team he need to...
1 goal 11 assist in 13+/- -11
Pace 6 goal 69 assist and +/- of -89
Against rest of NHL
1 goal 19 assist in 35 game +6
Pace of 2 goal 45 assist and + 14
At the end, i just think rielly like rest of the core just cheat offensivly against trash team but played like he have to do against team he need to...
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I’m an avid defender of him, but he needs to get his shit together. He’s gotta be much better than this for us to do anything in the playoffs
I still believe that for Dubas and the Leafs to get full value from Rielly, they need to finally pay the price and bring in a RHD who will be his partner and cover/complement strengths and weaknesses.
Was ecstatic when the news was breaking that we we were dealing with Washington for Sandin, as I was hoping it was Jensen who would be coming back the other way. Clearly Washington were committed to re-signing him, but he was exactly the type of RHD that we need to be pursuing.
I still feel that if we can bring in a RHD that compliments Rielly, we will actually be getting the most out of our investment in Rielly as well.
If Calgary crashes and burns, they have RHD that can be looked at, with Weegar being the dream with rumors already that he could be shopped.
Recently signed long term, and a cap above our apetite, but if Calgary is motivated, you have a long-term pairing set there, and we can be comfortable leaving Holl and Schenn (maybe league minimum for Schenn?) to UFA with a RHD side of:
Weegar
Liljegren
Timmins
Niemala
Cap gymnastics required for sure, with priority also needing to re-sign ROR and Acciari, but that is what Pridham and Co. make the big bucks for.
Hopefully for this season Rielly can go into playoff mode, but I still feel that Dubas' inability to bring in a RHD at the TDL will have a significant impact on what happens for us in the playoffs. Holl and Schenn aren't it, and we are placing a lot of hope on Liljegren, who has shown he's up to it, provided Keefe gives him the chance.
Was ecstatic when the news was breaking that we we were dealing with Washington for Sandin, as I was hoping it was Jensen who would be coming back the other way. Clearly Washington were committed to re-signing him, but he was exactly the type of RHD that we need to be pursuing.
I still feel that if we can bring in a RHD that compliments Rielly, we will actually be getting the most out of our investment in Rielly as well.
If Calgary crashes and burns, they have RHD that can be looked at, with Weegar being the dream with rumors already that he could be shopped.
Recently signed long term, and a cap above our apetite, but if Calgary is motivated, you have a long-term pairing set there, and we can be comfortable leaving Holl and Schenn (maybe league minimum for Schenn?) to UFA with a RHD side of:
Weegar
Liljegren
Timmins
Niemala
Cap gymnastics required for sure, with priority also needing to re-sign ROR and Acciari, but that is what Pridham and Co. make the big bucks for.
Hopefully for this season Rielly can go into playoff mode, but I still feel that Dubas' inability to bring in a RHD at the TDL will have a significant impact on what happens for us in the playoffs. Holl and Schenn aren't it, and we are placing a lot of hope on Liljegren, who has shown he's up to it, provided Keefe gives him the chance.
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I am pretty sure he is hurt again, The drop in his game reminds me of 19-20 when they told us nothing and he looked like he was towing a piano around but they didn't sit him until he broke his foot in January and they had no choice.
They acquire a 20:00 a night offensive LD in the Sandin deal and don't flip him at the deadline even though they have Mo, McCabe and Gio on the left? It fits too well. Classic decision on losing him for the season with surgery or limping him through. Even if you hate his game, you have to admit he has an established level of play in the last 6 seasons but this year and 19-20 look way out of place.
Its not a pass for him, his game is what it is, but last year's much better Reilly isn't dead, its just a question of when he shows up again.
They acquire a 20:00 a night offensive LD in the Sandin deal and don't flip him at the deadline even though they have Mo, McCabe and Gio on the left? It fits too well. Classic decision on losing him for the season with surgery or limping him through. Even if you hate his game, you have to admit he has an established level of play in the last 6 seasons but this year and 19-20 look way out of place.
Its not a pass for him, his game is what it is, but last year's much better Reilly isn't dead, its just a question of when he shows up again.
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I don't know if it's an "again" thing. I don't think he ever recovered from that original injury.
I wonder if it's another one of those injuries that need off-season surgery but it's not enough to keep him out of games this season. Who knows though.
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Valid points. He did come back from injury and looked like he was dragging a leg to push off so who knows how healthy he is. But the Leafs were playing very well defensively before he came back, so it's been an unwelcome rush back to the roster.
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Still love how he can skate the puck up the ice, but if his wheels start to decline, we are in for a rough seven years.
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