Speculation: What happens with Tarasenko now?

[Vladys Gumption]

Does the foundation Voracek for Tarasenko swap still make sense?

Not even slightly interested. I’d rather just take the cap space straight up. Voracek is a good player but we have enough guys that are going to have their contracts look rough in a couple years.

 

[leeroggy]

Lol yeah no. Junk and overage junk.

Junk? Seriously? Bailey is a pretty solid player who performs in the playoffs, unlike many other NHL players.

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	GP	G	A	PTS	+/-	PIM	EV	PP	SH	GW	EV	PP	SH	S	S%	TSA	TOI	ATOI	FOW	FOL	FO%	BLK	HIT	TK	GV	Awards

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2016-17	27	NYI	NHL	82	13	43	56	5	12	10	3	0	1	34	9	0	173	7.5	304	1506	18:22	8	7	53.3	53	37	54	61	Byng-42
2017-18	28	NYI	NHL	76	18	53	71	-20	17	13	5	0	3	27	26	0	151	11.9	266	1359	17:53	11	39	22.0	33	12	45	62	Byng-49
2018-19	29	NYI	NHL	82	16	40	56	8	21	13	2	1	4	28	12	0	126	12.7	221	1380	16:50	140	132	51.5	32	19	41	80
2019-20	30	NYI	NHL	68	14	29	43	-12	10	11	2	1	2	22	7	0	94	14.9	161	1149	16:54	128	129	49.8	48	20	38	54
2020-21	31	NYI	NHL	54	8	27	35	12	4	8	0	0	1	18	9	0	77	10.4	122	945	17:30	14	18	43.8	19	13	19	39	Byng-17

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Colt55]

Junk? Seriously? Bailey is a pretty solid player who performs in the playoffs, unlike many other NHL players.

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	GP	G	A	PTS	+/-	PIM	EV	PP	SH	GW	EV	PP	SH	S	S%	TSA	TOI	ATOI	FOW	FOL	FO%	BLK	HIT	TK	GV	Awards

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2016-17	27	NYI	NHL	82	13	43	56	5	12	10	3	0	1	34	9	0	173	7.5	304	1506	18:22	8	7	53.3	53	37	54	61	Byng-42
2017-18	28	NYI	NHL	76	18	53	71	-20	17	13	5	0	3	27	26	0	151	11.9	266	1359	17:53	11	39	22.0	33	12	45	62	Byng-49
2018-19	29	NYI	NHL	82	16	40	56	8	21	13	2	1	4	28	12	0	126	12.7	221	1380	16:50	140	132	51.5	32	19	41	80
2019-20	30	NYI	NHL	68	14	29	43	-12	10	11	2	1	2	22	7	0	94	14.9	161	1149	16:54	128	129	49.8	48	20	38	54
2020-21	31	NYI	NHL	54	8	27	35	12	4	8	0	0	1	18	9	0	77	10.4	122	945	17:30	14	18	43.8	19	13	19	39	Byng-17

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Yeah junk at 5mil cap hit for 3 years already 31 then ypu add komorov. Why would anyone make this deal.

 

[jonlin]

Seriously for being out for 2 years on a botched surgery to come back and do that. Plus have .50 gpg in the playoffs shows he is healthy. No player comes back from missing almost and entire season ( with exception to kuch) and kills it. That's why blues should just have him play next year and move him at tdl. Cause nobody here seems to want to offer anything of value. Obviously what we think at the end of the day doesn't mean anything but one would think that gm consensus was the same hence a trade didn't happen unless gms wanted to wait after the expansion draft.

So, your saying scoring at 0.5 is worth 7,5M? What is scoring at 1.0 worth - 15M? 0.5 is low 2nd line or 3rd line production. How many 3rd liners get 7.5M?

 

[jonlin]

Yeah junk at 5mil cap hit for 3 years already 31 then ypu add komorov. Why would anyone make this deal.

Bailey is junk for 5M and still outscores your 7.5M player?

 

[HuskyBruinPride]

He stays in St Louis and they hope he rebounds. If he was passed up for free then I doubt anyone gives up assets on him.

 

[Colt55]

So, your saying scoring at 0.5 is worth 7,5M? What is scoring at 1.0 worth - 15M? 0.5 is low 2nd line or 3rd line production. How many 3rd liners get 7.5M?

Once again you took what I said out of context. Do you think missing most of two years that when you come back you are 100% NHL ready nope. It took about 5 10 games of 24 to get back into into the swing of things. Have you ever played the game your self..

If taraseno hist 25 goals and 35 assists that's 60+ points is that worth 7.5 ? That's what I think he will do if not better

 

[Colt55]

Bailey is junk for 5M and still outscores your 7.5M player?

When has Bailey ever out scored tarasenko.

Please show your math

 

[CupHolders]

If Blues are looking strictly looking to clear cap for Landeskog.

How about the following deal (I proposed on the Isles board) as a basis:

Isles - Tarasenko 2 x 7.5 (no retention)

Blues - Boychuck 1yr - 6m LTIR, small sweetener

Maybe Blues retain the 1.5m and the Isles add Wilde or some other prospect/s as previously suggested.

 

[goal1228]

We don't know what happened do we. We should know by 7pm maybee they are getting other assets for retaining tarasenkos salary for a three way trade like has been reported for nyi and phi. So we are not there yet are we. So far all we know is what has been leaked. We don't even truly know if this is actually true. Lol

We sought of do know though. Why would St. Louis expose him for nothing if they could have traded him for anything of value, let alone a first. The Nhl network analyst crew said you are probably going to have to retain salary and get little return.
Their words.

 

[Colt55]

We sought of do know though. Why would St. Louis expose him for nothing if they could have traded him for anything of value, let alone a first. The Nhl network analyst crew said you are probably going to have to retain salary and get little return.
Their words.

Is it possible they have a deal. We don't know. 1 guy said that while Bruce b said he was healthy and held value. Conflicting opinions go figure. I guess you were not going to mention. That. Lol I been watching since they started.

 

[goal1228]

Is it possible they have a deal. We don't know. 1 guy said that while Bruce b said he was healthy and held value. Conflicting opinions go figure. I guess you were not going to mention. That. Lol I been watching since they started.

Bruce is the one who said they would have to retain salary with not much coming back. Thats not a first lol

 

[Colt55]

If Blues are looking strictly looking to clear cap for Landeskog.

How about the following deal (I proposed on the Isles board) as a basis:

Isles - Tarasenko 2 x 7.5 (no retention)

Blues - Boychuck 1yr - 6m LTIR, small sweetener

Maybe Blues retain the 1.5m and the Isles add Wilde or some other prospect/s as previously suggested.

So you want tank and you want to send boychuck to us and only add wilde if we retain. Lol get real man

 

[Colt55]

Bruce is the one who said they would have to retain salary with not much coming back. Thats not a first lol

No the guy in the middle did not Boudreau. Where you even pay attention. Go ahead rewind your box and check it I am right lol

 

[Colt55]

Bailey is junk for 5M and still outscores your 7.5M player?

Lol you can't find a single year that bailey has ever outscored taraenmo not even in his injured years lol.

 

[Ogi1Kenobi]

Seattle could have had this guy for free, and passed. Add on his injury history and are some people still expecting a decent return?

 

[CupHolders]

So you want tank and you want to send boychuck to us and only add wilde if we retain. Lol get real man

Or don’t retain and get nothing in addition to the sweetener. This deal essentially removes Tarasenko’s cap hit. As some here are looking to do.

Your the only one who seems hopeful that he has value. Maybe he does but all optics and reports suggest no.

 

[SI90]

Junk? Seriously? Bailey is a pretty solid player who performs in the playoffs, unlike many other NHL players.

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	GP	G	A	PTS	+/-	PIM	EV	PP	SH	GW	EV	PP	SH	S	S%	TSA	TOI	ATOI	FOW	FOL	FO%	BLK	HIT	TK	GV	Awards

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2016-17	27	NYI	NHL	82	13	43	56	5	12	10	3	0	1	34	9	0	173	7.5	304	1506	18:22	8	7	53.3	53	37	54	61	Byng-42
2017-18	28	NYI	NHL	76	18	53	71	-20	17	13	5	0	3	27	26	0	151	11.9	266	1359	17:53	11	39	22.0	33	12	45	62	Byng-49
2018-19	29	NYI	NHL	82	16	40	56	8	21	13	2	1	4	28	12	0	126	12.7	221	1380	16:50	140	132	51.5	32	19	41	80
2019-20	30	NYI	NHL	68	14	29	43	-12	10	11	2	1	2	22	7	0	94	14.9	161	1149	16:54	128	129	49.8	48	20	38	54
2020-21	31	NYI	NHL	54	8	27	35	12	4	8	0	0	1	18	9	0	77	10.4	122	945	17:30	14	18	43.8	19	13	19	39	Byng-17

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Not to mention he’s really good defensively and can play all 3 forward positions. Ohh and he plays at an all star level for his career in the playoffs and the stats back it up.

 

[benedictTavares]

Contract has negative value at this moment. Maybe he bounces back but he seems to want out. Sorry no matter how many posts per minute Colt55 makes it won't change the math.

 

[leeroggy]

So you want tank and you want to send boychuck to us and only add wilde if we retain. Lol get real man

Why don't you propose a trade for Tank since it seems you want to simultaneously:

Clear a lot of cap space AND get back lots of assets that aren't junk. Of course a #1 pick at #25 or higher is likely junk to you and a prospect is likely junk to you because they are unproven.

Make your offer to the Isles.

This should be enlightening . . .

 

[Colt55]

Or don’t retain and get nothing in addition to the sweetener. This deal essentially removes Tarasenko’s cap hit. As some here are looking to do.

Your the only one who seems hopeful that he has value. Maybe he does but all optics and reports suggest no.

Lol what was the sweetener. So we take on 6mil ltir salary which we pay and you get a 30 goal scoring healthy tarasenko. No thanks hard pass

 

[Kranix]

His shoulder will go wonky when he takes a clapper at a skate in the summer, and he'll need surgery again

 

[Colt55]

Why don't you propose a trade for Tank since it seems you want to simultaneously:

Clear a lot of cap space AND get back lots of assets that aren't junk. Of course a #1 pick at #25 or higher is likely junk to you and a prospect is likely junk to you because they are unproven.

Make your offer to the Isles.

This should be enlightening . . .

I dont know if auto correct got the best of you. But are you asking me to create a trade with tank?

 

[Colt55]

His shoulder will go wonky when he takes a clapper at a skate in the summer, and he'll need surgery again

Ok well obviously you are a person who sees the future. Can you tell me what the power ball and mega millions numbers are

 

[CupHolders]

Lol what was the sweetener. So we take on 6mil ltir salary which we pay and you get a 30 goal scoring healthy tarasenko. No thanks hard pass

Insurance pays his remaining 2m of salary. And LTIR “essentially” takes the entire cap hit us off your books. Do you know how LTIR works?

Also, Blues ownership saves a butt load of real money.

By the way other Blues fans can comment. This wasn’t just for you and I know you don’t speak for them all.