What exactly does Reaves do?

[TheRumble]

He shouldn't be allowed to put on a Leafs jersey. He doesn't do anything useful


It's pretty clear some are just happy having players who punch people or known too. Thats how you win. Other aspects don't matter.

Yes, I've always said that if we just taught Georges St. Pierre how to skate, we'd go 82-0 and 16-1 in the playoffs. The 1 game being the one GSP gets supended in.

 

[1specter]

Tonight's game sealed for me his uselessness. If you can't make an impact and get nasty against the Bruins after they hurt one of your good Dmen then why are you on this team? Take an instigator even for all I care, but if you're not going to do that then get the f*** off this team.

 

[Leafs87]

He was great the first few games. No idea what happened. Fighting is whatever from him, I don’t think he’ll find frequent dance partners, but wtf come on. At least hit. He has no other skill set. I loved his style the first few games.

 

[stickty111]

Tonight's game sealed for me his uselessness. If you can't make an impact and get nasty against the Bruins after they hurt one of your good Dmen then why are you on this team? Take an instigator even for all I care, but if you're not going to do that then get the f*** off this team.

All those narratives about him making the team bigger, and defending the team ended today. Dino hockey analysts have some explaining to do

 

[TMLAM34]

A little disappointed after tonight. Definitely makes you question why he’s even on this team if he can’t stand up for his teammates considering he provides literally nothing else…

 

[Stephen]

He was great the first few games. No idea what happened. Fighting is whatever from him, I don’t think he’ll find frequent dance partners, but wtf come on. At least hit. He has no other skill set. I loved his style the first few games.

The Maple Leafs are either such a country club that they can defang a goon in 10 games and turn him into this, or someone came in with an iPad and told Reaves not to do Reaves type things. I think it’s a little of column A little of column B.

 

[BallardEra]

1. Dressing room DJ
2. Halloween scare guy
3. Team comedian
4. Team "loosen up" guy
5. Carlton the Bear fill in

 

[Stephen]

All those narratives about him making the team bigger, and defending the team ended today. Dino hockey analysts have some explaining to do

The theory isn’t wrong, but he’s not the right guy for the job. Or won’t do the job.

 

[Stephen]

1. Dressing room DJ
2. Halloween scare guy
3. Team comedian
4. Team "loosen up" guy
5. Carlton the Bear fill in

The substitute teacher.

 

[Dekes For Days]

The Maple Leafs are either such a country club that they can defang a goon in 10 games and turn him into this, or someone came in with an iPad and told Reaves not to do Reaves type things. I think it’s a little of column A little of column B.

It's actually all column C. People expected something that doesn't exist and now they're realizing what these players actually do everywhere, when you watch them all the time instead of in twitter highlights.

 

[Leafs87]

The Maple Leafs are either such a country club that they can defang a goon in 10 games and turn him into this, or someone came in with an iPad and told Reaves not to do Reaves type things. I think it’s a little of column A little of column B.

While I agree, I would argue that if he can’t do Reaves type things he shouldn’t have been signed. Treliving needs to step in and let the coaches know what Reaves is there for. If he agrees with coach’s assessment then Reaves should be waived. He has no other qualities.

 

[sxvnert]

Team mascot.

 

[Stephen]

While I agree, I would argue that if he can’t do Reaves type things he shouldn’t have been signed. Treliving needs to step in and let the coaches know what Reaves is there for. If he agrees with coach’s assessment then Reaves should be waived. He has no other qualities.

Yeah, I think waiving him is the inevitable here. If the Leafs brought him in to be a tough guy, but not to fight that doesn't leave a lot of job profile for him. And if he's not fighting for whatever reason he's not doing his job. Waive him and replace him with a mild mannered Marlie.

 

[Martin Skoula]

The same people whining and crying saying he didn't do anything to Marchand, would be the same ones whining and crying if he did and took a 2 min/5 min penalty.

He takes those and gets scored against at ES without punching anyone, might as well see someone on the Bruins bleed. I’m pretty sure our PK gets scored on less per minute than Reaves at ES lmao. Reaves in the box is a defensive upgrade for us.

 

[Ciao]

This is the night Reaves should have taken an instigator, a major, a game misconduct and a 20-game suspension.

Then the Leafs might have had their pound of flesh, and be a bit better for the next 20 games as well.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

The Leafs softness rubbed off of him. He was good in the first couple games.

Bertuzzi, Domi also showing 0 bite.

 

[TheRumble]

The same people whining and crying saying he didn't do anything to Marchand, would be the same ones whining and crying if he did and took a 2 min/5 min penalty.

THis is a clown level take.

We didn't like it when Kadri did it because Kadri was our 2C and 3C at the time. That's an important player on the team.

Reaves is a 100% expendable player, that's what enforcers are.

 

[Stephen]

He takes those and gets scored against at ES without punching anyone, might as well see someone on the Bruins bleed. I’m pretty sure our PK gets scored on less per minute than Reaves at ES lmao. Reaves in the box is a defensive upgrade for us.

If the Leafs spent the rest of the game having Domi, Bertuzzi and Reaves scrum every play, beat up on their rookies, crash land on Swayman a few times and feed Marchand his lunch and left the Bruins bloodied, it would have sent a message for the rest of the season, I wouldn't have minded that type of team bonding. 2-2 rally, OTL and losing in a skills competition feels like they got nothing done even though they got a point.

 

[Stephen]

THis is a clown level take.

We didn't like it when Kadri did it because Kadri was our 2C and 3C at the time. That's an important player on the team.

Reaves is a 100% expendable player, that's what enforcers are.

Exactly. He's the designated face puncher.

 

[cyris]

The same people whining and crying saying he didn't do anything to Marchand, would be the same ones whining and crying if he did and took a 2 min/5 min penalty.

Okay but then what does he do?
He clearly doesn’t stop anyone from taking cheap shots against us. Tonight proved that.
He also doesn’t do anything to punish guys when they do take those cheap shots.

So what does he do? Make sure our 4th line gets caved in every night?

 

[authentic]

I hear he throws a good party.

The neighbours always tell him to keep the noise down

 

[Martin Skoula]

If the Leafs spent the rest of the game having Domi, Bertuzzi and Reaves scrum every play, beat up on their rookies, crash land on Swayman a few times and feed Marchand his lunch and left the Bruins bloodied, it would have sent a message for the rest of the season, I wouldn't have minded that type of team bonding. 2-2 rally, OTL and losing in a skills competition feels like they got nothing done even though they got a point.

I’m just saying the “Reaves shouldn’t fight because of penalties” isn’t a valid argument considering we’re playing 4v5 at ES when he’s on the ice but at least on the PK we’re allowed to ice it. Reaves in the box or suspended for literally any of the Bruins players on LTIR is a massive win for us both by hurting Boston and forcing them to get an actual NHL player instead of Reaves for however many games he’s suspended.

Edit:
Reaves at ES: 6 GA in 70 minutes
Leafs PK: 8 GA in 53 minutes

I was just kidding at first but on further inspection Reaves actually has a decent shot at having a worse defensive impact than being down a man. The PK is almost all D-zone starts against the opponents best forwards, Reaves gets 60% offensive zone starts against 4th lines.

And this is the best he’ll ever be for the remainder of his 3 year contract.

 

[TheRumble]

I’m just saying the “Reaves shouldn’t fight because of penalties” isn’t a valid argument considering we’re playing 4v5 at ES when he’s on the ice but at least on the PK we’re allowed to ice it. Reaves in the box or suspended for literally any of the Bruins players on LTIR is a massive win for us both by hurting Boston and forcing them to get an actual NHL player instead of Reaves for however many games he’s suspended.

Edit:
Reaves at ES: 6 GA in 70 minutes
Leafs PK: 8 GA in 53 minutes

I was just kidding at first but on further inspection Reaves actually has a decent shot at having a worse defensive impact than being down a man. The PK is almost all D-zone starts against the opponents best forwards, Reaves gets 60% offensive zone starts against 4th lines.

And this is the best he’ll ever be for the remainder of his 3 year contract.

There was a goal the other night vs the Kings where the 4th line got caught on in their zone and the Kings were cycling. Reaves was so lost he was turning around just to find a guy to cover.

Now 4th lines getting caught on the ice vs 1st lines happen but I can't ever remember our 4th liners being so bad they literally got lost in the flow of play.

I had this hot take when Engvall got traded that people would really miss him without realizing it. Engvall was actually a very good defensive forward and one of the few guys that had any sort of offensive chemistry with Kampf. Was her perfect? No. But if he was he wouldn't be a bottom six guy. Connor Brown wasn't perfect, Trevor Moore wasn't perfect, Andreas Johnsson wasn't perfect, Kapanen wasn't perfect but they were all playable.

The fanbase wanted bottom sixers that didn't do anything but act tough and play like shit and they got exactly what they asked for in Reaves and completely forgot about the Burke years when we had a line of Mclaren, Orr and Fraser that did absolutely nothing but get scored on.

 

[Gilmour1996]

Up: Clifford
Down: Reaves

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Reaves is trash.

The more I watch him play the more I understand what mind numbingly useless means. He offers nothing outside a couple staged fights. Otherwise the only other thing hockey he can do is skate and shoot the puck.

He's just not very good at those things is all.

I doubt Keefe even wants the cement handed no scoring lead foot in the lineup. The only time Reave's even fights is when it's another washed up hack clinging to an NHL job. If he's not gonna do anything except shoot a few stink eyes then why is he even here?

I really hope this isn't another case of someone who thinks they can both punch another players head off AND still play good hockey.

Because that's clearly not the case. I mean, don't get me wrong, there's nothing about Reaves that makes him unlikeable. Except the below replacement level player part.

Great leadership though I hear.