What exactly does Reaves do?

jaric1862

Registered User
Jan 14, 2014
4,227
1,971
Not pretending anything, they chose Gregor over Lafferty. Cap is always a consideration in a cap league.

I don’t know which player they liked more, either do you.
We only know which one they kept.

Gregor = Able to have 21-man roster
Lafferty = Can only carry a 20-man roster

Pretty obvious it was a cap decision.

Either way, both Gregor and Lafferty are better than Reaves and should be on the roster instead of him.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Buds17 and arso40

cyris

On a Soma Holiday
Dec 6, 2008
17,267
5,109
3rd Planet From Sun.
Treliving thought that Reeves could bring something to the team .
If he goes on waivers I thing his cap can be barried.
Or what is the buyout ?
His contract can’t be fully buried right now but it does get close.
By next season when the cap goes up his contract would probably would be able to be fully buried.
He can’t be bought out until the buyout window in the summer and even then it would be pointless. His buy out penalty would be larger than the portion of his salary that can’t be buried
 

horner

Registered User
May 22, 2007
8,694
5,095
His contract can’t be fully buried right now but it does get close.
By next season when the cap goes up his contract would probably would be able to be fully buried.
He can’t be bought out until the buyout window in the summer and even then it would be pointless. His buy out penalty would be larger than the portion of his salary that can’t be buried
If he retires the Leafs will find a job for him like Muzzin.
 

TMLAM34

Registered User
Oct 15, 2020
5,415
6,486
I’d give it another game with Reaves being a healthy scratch. If the team plays well, especially the fourth line, then I don’t see how you don’t waive Reaves for cap flexibility. No one is picking him up with that length on his contract.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ciao

hockeywiz542

Registered User
May 26, 2008
16,332
5,348
Ryan Reaves is a very poor, underwhelming and overpaid UFA signing by the Toronto Maple Leafs this past summer that will cost this NHL club $1,350,000 in valuable annual salary cap space for the next 3 years.


Screenshot-2023-11-12-at-18-44-40-Ryan-Reaves-Contract-Cap-Hit-Salary-and-Stats-Cap-Friendly-NHL.png


RYAN REAVES #75

Toronto Maple Leafs

Right Wing

Cap Hit: $1,350,000

BORN: Jan. 20, 1987

AGE: 36

BIRTHPLACE: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

NATIONALITY: Canada

SHOOTS: Right

HEIGHT: 6'2" (188 cm)

WEIGHT: 225 lbs (102 kg)
 

ponder

Registered User
Jul 11, 2007
17,066
6,608
Vancouver
His contract can’t be fully buried right now but it does get close.
By next season when the cap goes up his contract would probably would be able to be fully buried.
He can’t be bought out until the buyout window in the summer and even then it would be pointless. His buy out penalty would be larger than the portion of his salary that can’t be buried
Nope, this year the buried threshold is $1.125 mil, and the following two years it’ll be just $25K higher, $1.15 mil. When we inevitably waive Reaves, the cap impact will be 225K this year, 200K next year, and 200K the year after that. Not the end of the world, but sucks to lose this cap for nothing just because Tre’s pro scouting is so terrible.

Buried threshold is based on min salary, not salary cap, and the min salary is already decided on for quite a few years into the future: Minimum NHL Salary & Buried Cap Hit | Puckpedia
 

cyris

On a Soma Holiday
Dec 6, 2008
17,267
5,109
3rd Planet From Sun.
Nope, this year the buried threshold is $1.125 mil, and the following two years it’ll be just $25K higher, $1.15 mil. When we inevitably waive Reaves, the cap impact will be 225K this year, 200K next year, and 200K the year after that. Not the end of the world, but sucks to lose this cap for nothing just because Tre’s pro scouting is so terrible.

Buried threshold is based on min salary, not salary cap, and the min salary is already decided on for quite a few years into the future: Minimum NHL Salary & Buried Cap Hit | Puckpedia
Thank you for clarifying. What an idiotic signing.
 

ponder

Registered User
Jul 11, 2007
17,066
6,608
Vancouver
Thank you for clarifying. What an idiotic signing.
Np, and yeah, a dumb one. The actual cap impact is not THAT bad, but seeing how bad Reaves has been, and how fans of his last few teams have said the same thing about his game, most concerning to me is what it says about Tre’s competence. Reaves, at this point in his career, doesn’t even look AHL quality, nevermind NHL quality, making a 3 year commitment to him is … not good.
 
  • Like
Reactions: hockeywiz542

cyris

On a Soma Holiday
Dec 6, 2008
17,267
5,109
3rd Planet From Sun.
Np, and yeah, a dumb one. The actual cap impact is not THAT bad, but seeing how bad Reaves has been, and how fans of his last few teams have said the same thing about his game, most concerning to me is what it says about Tre’s competence. Reaves, at this point in his career, doesn’t even look AHL quality, nevermind NHL quality, making a 3 year commitment to him is … not good.
Yeah I agree. At his best Reaves wasn’t a very good player. And he isn’t close to his best.
Fighting still has a place in this league but you have to be able to contribute in other way and Reaves was never going to be able to do that. He never really did and now he is 36.
 

Blowfish

Count down ...
Jan 13, 2005
23,783
16,273
Southwestern Ontario
I recognize why folk are down on Reaves. On a different note thinking this may spark some hope or interest. Cool story.

Ryan Reaves is said to be a direct descendant of the real Bass Reeves. It is claimed his grandfather changed the 'ee' to 'ea'.

 
Last edited:

Peasy

Registered User
May 25, 2012
17,889
17,155
Star Shoppin
I recognize I get why folk are down on Reaves. On a different note thinking this may spark some hope or interest.

Ryan Reaves is said to be a direct descendant of the real Bass Reeves. It is claimed his grandfather changed the 'ee' to 'ea'.


Why is a bruins fan, that trashes the leafs constantly on the main boards, even posting here?
 
  • Like
Reactions: ThrowDemTongs

Peasy

Registered User
May 25, 2012
17,889
17,155
Star Shoppin
I was posting an interesting storyline connected to Reaves and like the majority of you i bash the stupidity of the decisions the Leafs management have made.
Completely different when youre actually a fan of the team.

Youre not. You constantly hate on them on the main boards, yet always come on this board posting acting all nice. Its two-faced and dumb.

1699884601401.png


Like get out of here and quit it with this "nice" act when you post here lmao.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Blowfish

Blowfish

Count down ...
Jan 13, 2005
23,783
16,273
Southwestern Ontario
Completely different when youre actually a fan of the team.

Youre not. You constantly hate on them on the main boards, yet always come on this board posting acting all nice. Its two-faced and dumb.
I posted the Ryan Reaves story main page for fans to watch. Cool story. I

A majority of leaf fans see the concerns and issues and certainly react and share the same sentiments as non-leaf fans. I truly believe the leafs had something special brewing before Dubas took over. It's too bad, the team would certainly have been more competitive and would have made for a truly interesting experience for hockey fans residing in SouthWestern Ontario.

I'm out of the thread....Like I said, I was simply posting a cool mini series with a possible connection to Ryan Reaves. I get why some here would be upset with me posting. Mods remove if need be. Probably made more sense to post on the main thread.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: no2ninja

KapG

Registered User
Dec 2, 2008
10,702
1,882
Toronto
he brings absolutely nothing to the table when it comes to his on ice performance. Maybe the guys like the music he plays in the locker room maybe. Cant believe we gave this bum 3 years hahaha
 
  • Like
Reactions: Darcy Tucker

inthe6ix

Registered User
Oct 3, 2008
5,518
1,893
Toronto, Canada
I was posting an interesting storyline connected to Reaves and like the majority of you i bash the stupidity of the decisions the Leafs management have made.

Go bash other teams on your own board. No one cares who Ryan is a descendant of.. you have an Out of Town thread on your board for a reason.
 

horner

Registered User
May 22, 2007
8,694
5,095
I was posting an interesting storyline connected to Reaves and like the majority of you i bash the stupidity of the decisions the Leafs management have made.
Every team thinks they can bring out the best in a player. At least if he dosnt work out waiver only 200 thousand against the cap.

The league is scattered with bad contracts

Orlov D 7.5 mil -9
Campbell 5 mil in the minors

What team do you cheer for
 

Brown Dog

Registered User
Jun 23, 2007
5,832
5,127
I actually liked the idea of the Reaves signing and was optimistic he'd play a role.

But his complete lack of response to the Marchand hit on Liljegrin was so puzzling and his on-ice play has been such a liability that it's pretty clear he serves no purpose.
 

Leafshater67

Registered User
Nov 2, 2019
1,760
2,757
Halifax
I actually liked the idea of the Reaves signing and was optimistic he'd play a role.

But his complete lack of response to the Marchand hit on Liljegrin was so puzzling and his on-ice play has been such a liability that it's pretty clear he serves no purpose.
This. With the Wild, he appeared to be capable of playing a shift on the 4th line. Here in Toronto however, that is not the case.

All he had to do against Boston was back his ass into the goalie and dare somebody to do something or run around and run some guys. He didn’t need to Bertuzzi Brad Marchand. Instead, he did nothing but talk from the bench.

Team toughness cannot be solved by one guy but I hoped this signing would spark this team to come together as a unit and stop being victims of bullying - I was wrong. I’m not an old school hockey supporter but holy shit watching Knies and Lilly get injured with zero push back at all is pathetic and to me the epitome of why this team can’t dig deep and win when the tempo picks up.
 

Dayjobdave

Registered User
Apr 29, 2010
3,396
1,846
I think people are being too harsh on Reaves for the Boston game, and he may yet play a role in a series against the right opponent, but he really looked miscast on the 4th line.

There may be no spot for him in the lineup.

Signing him may have been a gesture to M&M that the team will get them some protection. Then it ends up being Gio and Domi sticking up for teammates.

Team toughness remains a problem not solved here, but we do have a GM who gets its value At least.
 

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad