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The record book and hall of fame will be around in 20 yearsThat's just his douchebag personnality, yes indeed.
No one in 20 years will talk of Kucherov, as good as he is now.
The record book and hall of fame will be around in 20 yearsThat's just his douchebag personnality, yes indeed.
No one in 20 years will talk of Kucherov, as good as he is now.
Ya those 2 Hart finishes kind of show the luck Ovi needed to be there in the first place and the 12-13 Hart with the unbalanced schedule is a really weak one right?Because Crosby missed 25% of the regular season. And it wasn't a very strong era. Jamie Benn, top scorer with 87 points for example... I think this season's McDavid/Kucherov/McKinnon would have shattered this mark.
They swept away the 80s generation as soon as they arrived in the league. We found ourselves at a time with a league where the majority of the best players were under 25 years old.
44 goals, 100 assists dude - 160 points in PO.
who gives a shit about "fame"Ovi has an incredible level of fame outside of stats that Kucherov doesn’t have, so it’ll never happen.
OV lead league Art Ross.Fame matters a great deal when the discussion is greatness. It’s the hall of fame, after all.
No, Kucherov is not close at this point. Someday? Maybe, but I doubt it.
Sure there is.if OVI has the most goals scored in NHL history
no way for kuch to jump him
period
like Bure over OV tooThis is an understatement, and it’s not of Kucherov. I have no interest in debating this further.
17/18… the year the goalie gear shrank and five million new stars were born. PPG players quadrupled. Kucherov wasn’t really elite before 16-17.Problem of understanding.
I repeat : Elite Player since 2014/5. To 2014 at 2016, Kucherov already had the level of a Stamkos between 2014 and 2016 and even slightly above.
Superstar since 2017/8. He made a 100 points season. Thing that Ovi didn't made since 14 years and by far (no more 90). And after this, only sick performances with, in addition, titles and finals to boot.
Kucherov has more seasons as a Superstar. Ovechkin was a Superstar since 2005 until 2010, then Franchise until 2019 and Elite until 2023.
Kucherov was Elite in 2014/16, Franchise in 2016/17, Superstar to 2017/24. And his career is not over. He is at his peak.
None of Ovechkin's seasons after 2010 come close to Kucherov's level of play since 2017.
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Kucherov is already the better player, and much better playoff performer. Ovie fangirls are blinded by goals but Kucherov just helps his team WIN.
You have got to stop with this nonsense lollike Bure over OV too
Not everyone is a power forward.answer to the question is: go back in time and hit people the way Ovechkin hit people while also scoring at generational level. It's too late.
If he had the two way game of Fedorov he would be arguably the greatest hockey player of all time.Get his two-way game to the level of a Fedorov, and also his skating like same, and he'll be on his way.
Maybe the Caps could let him go to Tampa, too, ala Ray Bourque, to help him score ......1,000My hot take is they should get a chance to play together at the Olympics. Imagine with Michkov as well, multiple generations together.
Yeah, I don’t see another Russian player breaking his 144 point record in 10 years from now.I highly doubt Kucherov will ever be in any historical discussions in 10 or 20 seasons from now. Some people might point back to this season once in awhile and say he had an amazing season and won a few Cups but his overall career body of work is not legendary or All-Time great level. Players need to have some kind of unique impact over a long period of time statistically and also be a focal point in the league for many years to be looked upon as an all time great. Before this season I have not seen or heard much discussion about Kucherov since 2019. Ovechkin has been a main focal point of the league for close to 20 years now and he has accumulated legendary goal scoring statistics. Kucherov is only 30 so he might have 3 or 4 more great seasons to gain that type of stature in the league but as of now, people will be talking about Ovechkin in 20 seasons from now and Kucherov will be a distant memory in most people's minds. They will be talking about Crosby, McDavid, Ovechkin, and even Matthews is making that impact with his level of goal scoring from this era. You don't become an all-time great for one or two noticeable seasons.
Holtby won a VezinaMcDavid has Draisaitl with Hart/Ross/Lindsay he factored in up to 50% of McD's points
Sid has Malkin with Hart/2Rosses/Lindsay/Calder/Smythe he factored in up to 50% of Sid's points
Kucherov has Point/Stamkos/Hedman with many trophies they factored in up to 80% of Kucherov's points
Ovechkin has no one with any trophy. And outpaced SidMalkin monster duo 3 times in a row.