Ian Mac said the following:
"The Tampa Bay Lightning had Miller and said it wanted first— and third— round draft picks for him. And the Canucks, rather than haggling for days or weeks, and possibly seeing the forward get traded elsewhere, agreed at the NHL draft on Saturday to the steep price."
First, let's be clear about the post. The Canucks "agreed to the steep price." There's no ambiguity here at all. It says that Tampa had a price and the Canucks met it. That's not a negotiation. That's accepting the seller's price. The meaning of the tweet is that there was no negotiation.
Perhaps Tampa said "we want a first and a third" and Bennning said "Well, we'd have to protect the first in 2020, but we could offer the first in 2021 with no protection if we keep the 2020 pick." Then Tampa said yes. That's not a negotiation. It's meeting the price: a first and a third.
In suggesting I'm unwilling to admit I'm wrong you're projecting your own psychology on to me. My case has been that Ian Mac says there was no negotiation. That's exactly the meaning of his tweet, and any other interpretation is bizarre and strained.
"If I am trying to sell a car for 10 grand, somebody offer me 8 and then same person offered me 9. I am saying No, then a few days they called and said let's do it.
That means that person didn't negotiate with me because he accepted my original price?
"If I try to ask for a discount for a regular price on a pair of shoes. I kept asking for 50% and then 40% and then 20% and then 10%. Sales people kept saying no" and I bought the shoes at regular price.
That means I didn't negotiate?
I believe you are getting confuse what the meaning of negotiating is, the outcome has nothing to do with it. It's the action that you took to get a better deal that works for you. That is Negotiating.
Tell me, in Imac post, tell me what was said in JB and Tampa GM 1st conversation about the trade? Your answer is I dont know because Imac didn't talk about that. If he didn't talk about that. How do you know JB didn't negotiate? It's becauze you don't know. You are just inpreting didn't haggle for days and weeks as not negotiating.
Btw your original post about what you thought Canucks should get Miller for was ridiculous. You said was 2nd and 3rd was more than enough. Some cap issue trades in the past. Shaw to Mon went for two 2nds. Johanssen to NJ went for a 2nd and a 3rd. Miller is a better player than both of them.
I get you are not a fan of JB, Lets not exaggerate and paint wrong Perception in your mind.
Anyway if we have a different meaning of negotiating. Then there is no point of having this debate.. You can't have a debate when the we have different definition on what the topic is.
