What changes next year?

[Not My Tempo]

Stay: Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, Reilly, Muzzin, Brodie, Campbell, Spezza

Go: Marner, anyone who can’t skate so Foligno, Simmonds, Thornton

the rest I don’t care.

 

[Peasy]

The depth was excellent.

Thornton 1 point, Simmonds 1 point, Foligno 1 point, Mikheyev 0 points, Engvall 1 point.

The only bottom 6 depth that actually played well was Spezza. Not sure if youre being sarcastic but the depth was pathetic.

 

[NiagaraKraken]

Go get Eichel Dubas. This is your chance to add a Franchise Center that’s never on the market and we should have the key piece to get that done.

 

[Blowfish]

Which players do you want to see stay on the team for next year, which players do you want to see gone and which players are in the "I don't know" category? The "I don't know"'s may be dealt or exposed or may stay. You're not quite sure about them.

Stay
Matthews
Tavares
Hyman
Nylander
Brodie
Bogosian (resign - ease Lily in)
Holl (still a great contract)
Muzzin
Sandin
Brooks
Campbell
Galchenyuk (besides that one mistake, I'll liked his drive in the playoffs. Must be cheap contract though)
Spezza (as long as he wants)

Go
Andersen
Marner (I'm in this camp)
Simmonds (I'm sad typing this.....I liked him)
Thornton
Foligno

I Don't Know
Dermott (Seattle?)
Kerfoot (Seattle? I'd like him to stay though. He's proven to be a decent playoff performer)
Rielly (I won't lose sleep if he's involved in a trade)
Engvall (too much $ for what he brings?)
Mikhevev (either way)
Hutton

Go:
Shanahan
Dubas

 

[mapleleafs34]

By no means am I comparing our team to Tampa. But I'm very curious to know what moves they made the off season after getting swept in the 1st round after their presidents trophy record setting regular season?

 

[mulefarm]

How would we be able to add Eichel?

 

[JayfromNB1219]

How would we be able to add Eichel?

Marner + probably Robertson a pick and Lilly or amirov

 

[The Blueprint]

Not attached to any players, make hockey deals to improve this team. I think Marner is a good kid but he's crumbled under the weight of the pressure and the enormous contract he demanded, he's gotta go.

 

[IrishInOntario]

In
Dubas (1 more year)
Matthews (1 more year)
Tavares
Nylander
Hyman (only on a team friendly deal)
Simmonds (only for 750k)
Spezza
Brodie
Muzzin (1 more chance to stay healthy)
Holl
Sandin (begrudgingly)
Bogosian

Out
Shanahan
Keefe and coaching staff
Marner (Johnny Gaudreau 2.0)
Foligno (absolute waste)
Mikheyev
Engvall
Kerfoot (expansion)
Jumbo
Galchenyuk
Reilly (move before he wants a raise)
Anderson

That's about 25 million heading out the door / coming off the cap. f***ing fix this nonsense Dubas, or you can go with them.

 

[freewilly]

Just because somebody disagrees with you doesn’t mean they lack common sense. Ironically, saying that someone who disagrees with you lacks common sense, probably lacks common sense

Nice try, but I didn’t say he lacks common sense because he disagrees... he lacks common sense because his arguments are nonsensical

 

[WTFMAN99]

Matthews
Campbell
Sandin

No loyalty because no success.

 

[baton elevated]

Marner + probably Robertson a pick and Lilly or amirov

That's too much for a player that has demanded out (Eichel). Straight trade of the two should be enough, maybe a minor tweek add. I know Eichel is a center but NO can be converted to one easily. Be bolder and do AM and MM for McDaivid plus small add.

 

[GordieHoweHatTrick]

There’s really no reason to keep Rielly around either. He’s a turnover machine with a limited skill-set whose proven he can’t handle #1 ice-time.

 

[mulefarm]

Marner + probably Robertson a pick and Lilly or amirov

Why would Buffalo do this?

 

[JayfromNB1219]

Why would Buffalo do this?

Because eichel wants out and they clearly win the trade if it were this...

 

[justashadowof]

Go: Shanahan, Dubas, Keefe because the commitments to the star players is greater than to the management.
Stay: Every player the new management wishes to retain.

 

[mulefarm]

Eichel is a center and so much better than Marner. Eichel is a franchise player and Marner isn’t even close. Buffalo doesn’t need a 11 million dollar winger!

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

By no means am I comparing our team to Tampa. But I'm very curious to know what moves they made the off season after getting swept in the 1st round after their presidents trophy record setting regular season?

Sorry for lurking, but I can answer this. We added some grinders to our bottom six (Goodrow, Maroon, Coleman) that can really wear down the opposing team over a 7 game series while also contributing offense. We shored up our defensive depth to be 8 deep (Shattenkirk, Bogosian, Schenn were added to the mix). But really the biggest factor was just our star players stepping up and taking over. Point, Hedman, Kucherov, Palat, Vasilevskiy all brought something extra on that run.

 

[rumman]

Blow it up, from Prez on down. Not a player I wouldn’t trade, closes one would be Hyman, but I’d trade him too if the right deal came along. The shiny Maple Leaf Ferrari just lost a race to a rusty Habs pickup truck. Flash and dash is for children and EA sports games, the pursuit of Lord Stanley’s cup is a man’s endeavour. So endth the lesson........again.........

 

[Puckclektr]

Nice try, but I didn’t say he lacks common sense because he disagrees... he lacks common sense because his arguments are nonsensical

And how are they nonsensical? They lack common sense when other people agree with them? What common sense do they lack?

 

[mapleleafs34]

Sorry for lurking, but I can answer this. We added some grinders to our bottom six (Goodrow, Maroon, Coleman) that can really wear down the opposing team over a 7 game series while also contributing offense. We shored up our defensive depth to be 8 deep (Shattenkirk, Bogosian, Schenn were added to the mix). But really the biggest factor was just our star players stepping up and taking over. Point, Hedman, Kucherov, Palat, Vasilevskiy all brought something extra on that run.

That's the answer I was looking for. Thank you.

Sometimes your star players need a wake up call and big changes aren't always needed.

 

[hockeywiz542]

What changes do Maple Leafs make after worst collapse yet? - Sportsnet.ca

So, what now? Where do you go from here?

Dubas has forever preached process, that progress is not linear the way fans would prefer it. In other words, that a team which hasn’t won a single series since YouTube was invented could suddenly win four one spring. If you keep betting on talent.

Eager to win during the Matthews-Marner prime, Dubas has also been the spendy type, both in draft capital and literal capital. (The Leafs used up four of their seven 2021 draft picks on this run.) He’s identified needs and gone hunting every summer.

Eight Maple Leafs who dressed Game 7 will be unrestricted free agents. Three more (David Rittich, Ben Hutton, Riley Nash) were depth pieces purchased for a deep run that never materialized.

Of that group, Jason Spezza, the best bang-for-your-buck veteran in the league, is worth re-signing. Dubas should take a run at Zach Hyman, too, although the power forward will have tempting suitors elsewhere. Bogosian, 30, certainly earned his $1 million. Would he take that sum short-term again?

The rest will likely walk. And Toronto will lose another useful piece (perhaps Alexander Kerfoot and his $3.5 million AAV?) to Seattle in the expansion draft, freeing up more room to manoeuvre.

Provided Campbell ($1.65 million cap hit) remains the starting goalie, Dubas will have more than enough cash to go on a spree and, once again, assemble a new cast of role players around his stars.

The executive could run it back and hope things will be different in 2022, that Muzzin and Tavares will be healthy, that his pocket aces will hold up.

Or, in a July where some very big fish will be available, Dubas could deviate from the original plan altogether.

The unravelling over the past five days is severe enough to make you at least question the pillars the Maple Leafs have been built upon.

 

[robertmac43]

I hope Kerfoot ends up staying. I really liked his play in the bubble last year and thought he was good in the Habs series.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

That's the answer I was looking for. Thank you.

Sometimes your star players need a wake up call and big changes aren't always needed.

The other thing is, learning how to play defensive teams like Columbus and Montreal takes time. Barry Trotz exposed how to beat us in 2018 and then Columbus used the exact same structure to sweep us in 2019. Cooper spent all of 2020 changing our play style to be more conservative offensively and focus more on puck support and possession. This is also where the Goodrow/Gourde/Coleman line comes in, they bring some diversity by grinding in the corners, working off the cycle and creating chances.

 

[Clark4Ever]

I'm undecided regarding management. Keefe had a tremendous regular season but faltered badly in this series.

Regarding the players, I would build around the following nucleus moving forward:

Matthews
Tavares
Nylander
Hyman
Robertson

Rielly
Brodie
Muzzin
Sandin
Liljegren

Campbell

I would also try to bring back Spezza, Galchenyuk, and Foligno on short term team friendly deals.