Value of: What 1st round pick would picks 41+42+43 get back ?

[WTFMAN99]

detroit fan wondering about yzermans draft day options

Toronto has pick #28 and not a lot of picks, if they aren't in love with the options, they could maybe do that trade.

 

[deca guard]

Not worth giving up 3 for 1, when you would probably get something in the 20s anyhow. Best bet is pick the 3 best available players and hope for the best.



If you gave up those 3, you would definitely get a late 1st. Players in the 25-45 range are all quite close in ratings.

i agree that a pick in the 20s isnt worth as much as these three pix in 40s . but a pick in mid to late teens could be , depends whose left once getting to mid teens . ide guess yzerman will be prepared to make this 3 for 1 offer if a player he likes is there . i also wonder if because of covid slowing some guys development that maybe yzerman thinx theres some sleepers there in the 40s and highly rates those pix . cant wait for the draft !

 

[SwedishFire]

I wouldnt. But maybe 25-26? 40 is veey low in the list.

 

[FlyguyOX]

I'd trade the Flyers #22 depending on if a player they love is on the board.

That would be a steal. Like I mentioned earlier, the odds of those picks combined is equivalent to a player you draft at 8.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

That would be a steal. Like I mentioned earlier, the odds of those picks combined is equivalent to a player you draft at 8.

I don't think that's accurate from a draft value POV at least, but I think it'd be a good idea for Philly to make the trade to get more shots at the dart board.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Toronto has pick #28 and not a lot of picks, if they aren't in love with the options, they could maybe do that trade.

I'd do that in a heartbeat.

 

[FlyguyOX]

I don't think that's accurate from a draft value POV at least, but I think it'd be a good idea for Philly to make the trade to get more shots at the dart board.

Yeah it's purely from a prospect/player probabilities of eventual NHL value perspective.

 

[MeinerEiner]

Don't know if Vancouver would use 14 as a cap dump but if they offer this Detroit should take it and run away quickly

I think you misread my post. It's Granlund and PITs pick, not Garland and VANs pick.

 

[norrisnick]

I think you misread my post. It's Granlund and PITs pick, not Garland and VANs pick.

For one of them maybe. The three 2nd picks alone should land in the teens. Taking on Granlund as well? Eating $5Mx2 with $11M in actual money is worth a 1st by itself. Toronto spent #13 to free themselves of $6.25M for only 1 year and only $4.25M in actual cash.

 

[samsagat]

As per:

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A 20-21th pick.

 

[Panthaz89]

Not sure a abysmal 5v5 player who's only strength is being a PP specialist at 5m / year is what the Wings are looking for tho.

7 of his 28 goals were on the PP(25%)....Larkin scored half his goals on the PP If anything Olofsson has a pretty solid ESP to PPP ratio.

 

[SirloinUB]

Looking at models of pick value folks have done previously, that seems to land you around 17-18th OA, but probably more like 19-21 given that the team initiating the trade has to sacrifice a bit of value.

Proposal:

Detroit trades 41 + 42 + 43 to Detroit for 17th

 

[Djp]

i agree that a pick in the 20s isnt worth as much as these three pix in 40s . but a pick in mid to late teens could be , depends whose left once getting to mid teens . ide guess yzerman will be prepared to make this 3 for 1 offer if a player he likes is there . i also wonder if because of covid slowing some guys development that maybe yzerman thinx theres some sleepers there in the 40s and highly rates those pix . cant wait for the draft !

Top 20 picks usually have long nhl careers. Picks in low 40s might have an nhl career beyond 100 games.

 

[Petes2424]

You have to throw out all historical reference with this draft. Those 3 picks are no different than having 24, 25 and 26 in a normal “skilled” draft. Every manager knows it too. Unless you’re in love with a player like Stenberg for example, then you’d make the pick at 26. Otherwise, you are getting the same degree of skill at 42.

If you look at 2 round mock drafts, you are going to see (in this draft) more than a couple players listed in the early 40s, go in the 1st Round.

Remember where these guys get their base info. It’s all from central scouting’s list. There’s 6-7 teams who don’t even use third party information anymore. We also have more teams than ever, who draft “types” of players now. At least outside of the Top dozen or so picks.

Nobody should be surprised if a Caden Price goes 25th, just how nobody should be surprised is Shimashev goes 44th. There’s 20-25 extra 200+ NHL Game prospects. Those are players who usually get drafted 20-35. Where teams believe they will play at least 200 NHL games, and bank, with development, they’ll be normal NHL players.

 

[EK392000]

Toronto loves their second round guys so I could see them making a move like this. They have the 28th pick which may not be enough but who knows. Maybe they package the pick with a player/prospect.

 

[Homesick]

Oilers 2024 1st

Proposal:

Detroit trades 41 + 42 + 43 to Detroit for 17th

Detroit hangs up