Value of: What 1st round pick would picks 41+42+43 get back ?

[kcunac]

17 + 41 for 11. Van targeting Simashev.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

~25th probably. It's pretty far to move back tbh but there's value to be had in those 3 picks for sure.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

17 + 41 for 11. Van targeting Simashev.

I’d do that if I were Detroit.

 

[Synergy27]

The Rangers need to be thinking about a trade like this. They have lost a lot of draft capital over the past couple of seasons, and they “theoretically” have the high end of their lineup set for quite some time so several swings at quality depth/potential middle 6 players is a good strategy.

That said, the drop from 23 to 41 is pretty massive. I like my mocks a lot better when trading down with Chicago from 23 to 35+44.

This really seems like something that might go down though. Perhaps include Goodrow in the deal as Detroit might view him as a piece that can help them take the next step to the playoffs.

 

[norrisnick]

I’d do that if I were Detroit.

100%

Then I'd be torn between combining #42 and #43 to get a pick in the 20s or to add one to #9 to slide that up a pinch to secure Dvorsky.

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

Hopefully Yzermans buddy Doug Armstrong can talk to him about 25 or 29, depending on who’s there

 

[BLNY]

32

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

As a Jets fan, I would give up the 18OA for those three picks.

Why? Our record drafting in the 2nd round isn't good. We need high-ceiling, likely outcome prospects to fill the cupboards, not a bunch of maybes.

 

[TheNewEra]

maybe san jose does 26?

with san jose trying to rebuild its prospect pool, 3 kicks at the can would be better than 1

 

[Soundgarden]

maybe san jose does 26?

with san jose trying to rebuild its prospect pool, 3 kicks at the can would be better than 1

I could see that

 

[Gliff]

Teams with 3 picks in 2nd round:
2010: EDM 31-46-48 2 busts and TPitlick, Fla 33-36-50 3 busts Chi 4 picks: 35-54-58-60 Holl and 3 busts
2011: STL 32-41-46 Jaskin, Edmundsen and bust, Dal 35-48-55 3 busts
2012: Dal 43-54-61 Shore and 2 busts
2014: Buf 31-44-49 3 busts
2015 Bos 37-45-52 Carlo, Lauzon and bust
2016: TB 37-45-58 Hajek, Katchouk, Raddysh (best job), Phi 36-48-52 Hart Allison and bust, Chi 39-45-50 DeBrincat and 2 busts

34 picks, 21 busts 62 %
3-4 above average player 10%
not great…

You’re acting like the round is the only factor in if the pick is a bust. The team making the picks is the biggest factor. The Ducks have like a 50% chance of 2nd rounders becoming NHLers.

 

[JRichard]

You’re acting like the round is the only factor in if the pick is a bust. The team making the picks is the biggest factor. The Ducks have like a 50% chance of 2nd rounders becoming NHLers.

Just gave recent instances with different teams. Not acting like anything really. Sometimes we think 3 later picks are better than an earlier one.
2010-2017 Ana 6 nhlers and 3 busts or 66%. But just by going back 5 more drafts (05-09), Ana got 1 player and 6 busts. Number now 44%.

I still believe player in early 20s as better shot at being a good nhler than the 1.5 player out of the 3 drafted.

 

[Guffman]

Why? Our record drafting in the 2nd round isn't good. We need high-ceiling, likely outcome prospects to fill the cupboards, not a bunch of maybes.

At 18, you’re still taking a chance. These picks are upper-second round.

If the Jets are not in love with the players remaining at 18, I am fine getting three darts.

 

[Petes2424]

detroit fan wondering about yzermans draft day options

Those 3 picks are like having 25, 26 and 27 in a normal skilled draft. There is no reason to trade up using multiples of them. There really isn’t. They’ll get 3 good prospects right there.

Usually two of those wouldn’t get you let’s say, 22nd overall. This year maybe it could. Depends who’s trading down and if they believe like many, there’s not much difference in actual NHL skills, from 22 to 42. It’s really about having more choice of type of player, and how long they see them taking to develop.

We’re going to see more than a few surprises in the first 2 rounds.

That said I do think they’ll move one of those 2nds. Maybe for Durzi type player.

 

[HabsPreds]

24th OA is available for that from Nashville.

 

[lilidk]

Looks like SJ won that trade by a mile, too.

Both teams lost . Nothing good came out of trade

 

[TageGod]

And I am telling you that obviously you would because Oloffson doesn't hold that much value.

Debatable. Gm's love goals.

 

[jkutswings]

100%

Then I'd be torn between combining #42 and #43 to get a pick in the 20s or to add one to #9 to slide that up a pinch to secure Dvorsky.

I wish the draft charts actually held water. Making that Vancouver deal and then combining 9OA and 11OA would be enough to vault Detroit all the way up to #3.

 

[Vitto79]

Add The Wild's 2023 4th to 41, 42, + 43
I will add Avs 2023 3rd to NY 323

Don’t get greedy and take the 3 - 2nds lol

 

[MeinerEiner]

How about #14 and Granlund?

 

[TheNewEra]

How about #14 and Granlund?

Don't know if Vancouver would use 14 as a cap dump but if they offer this Detroit should take it and run away quickly

 

[Jumptheshark]

Number 19

That was the number I thought of

 

[Mrfenn92]

That was the number I thought of

Not saying the hawks or if another team ends with pick do it but it seems like the right spot

 

[Gliff]

Just gave recent instances with different teams. Not acting like anything really. Sometimes we think 3 later picks are better than an earlier one.
2010-2017 Ana 6 nhlers and 3 busts or 66%. But just by going back 5 more drafts (05-09), Ana got 1 player and 6 busts. Number now 44%.

I still believe player in early 20s as better shot at being a good nhler than the 1.5 player out of the 3 drafted.

Anaheim before 2008 was a different scouting team. Compare to 2008 if you really want to see.
And I understand this is all anecdotal, but you can look at the Ducks in 2011 or 2014 to support this belief.

In 2011 the Ducks traded down from 22 (Biggs) to 30 (Rakell) and 39 (Gibson) to go along with with own 2nd at 53 (William Karlsson).

In 2014 the Ducks took Pettersson and Montour in the 2nd and took Ritchie at 10.

Nothing is forsure and there are a lot of factors that go into it, but some teams have had a lot more success in the draft and I can only speak for my team. If the Ducks didn't have a great prospect pool I would be all for trading a mid 1st for these 3 2nds.

 

[Oddbob]

detroit fan wondering about yzermans draft day options

Not worth giving up 3 for 1, when you would probably get something in the 20s anyhow. Best bet is pick the 3 best available players and hope for the best.

Probably about #40.
1st????
Hilarious.

Highest you move up for that is probably 28th Pick if a team with an extremely Late 1st just doesn’t give a shit.

If you gave up those 3, you would definitely get a late 1st. Players in the 25-45 range are all quite close in ratings.