Blue Jays Discussion: :( well it was a hell of a ride

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Are the Jays' stats included in the Stats at Roger Centre?

....yes....yes they are.

 

[mikebel111*]

Jays have power and great patience. They can also score runs in many ways. They don't always swing for home runs unlike the Cubs got exposed huge as they play hero home run

 

[Kurtz]

The funniest portion (pillar, really) of the argument is that Rogers Centre is a homerun haven when in reality it (along with Dodgers stadium) are the most neutral power parks in the league.

You've probably just constructed that argument in your head. No one claimed that RC is a homerun haven (Although it was the 3rd most homer-friendly park in the majors in 2013 and 2014). The point made is it's far more homer friendly than Kauffman.

 

[guyzeur]

....yes....yes they are.

I would like to see the same stats without the home team's stats being included.

 

[EpochLink]

IF Price crumbles early, pull him asap

 

[King Mapes]

Wait...what? The reason the Royals lead the series is because they're 2-0 at home and 1-2 on the road.

Sometimes I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I'm in this thread...

Ya home team is 4-1 in this series so yes it has made a difference.

 

[King Mapes]

IF Price crumbles early, pull him asap

And put in who?

 

[HamiltonNHL]

IF Price crumbles early, pull him asap

Yes.
Of course, Gibbons doesn't make moves early.

 

[Discoverer]

See I don't see that at all. Watch how many violent swings they have hoping to hit one 900 feet. Sure when they hit boy it is majestic but how many times have we seen them caught looking with 2 strikes??? Looking for a pitch....protect the plate and foul it off eventually the pitcher will make a mistake.

You can't tell me when Donaldson, Jose and EE are in the box they are not looking to go yard...of course they are.

They're looking to hit the ball hard. It often goes out because they're really good hitters. It's not a complex concept.

 

[Sokil]

And put in who?

Buehrle, it's his time to shine.

 

[theaub]

They're looking to hit the ball hard. It often goes out because they're really good hitters. It's not a complex concept.

Not to mention that Donaldson/Bautista/Edwin have all had a ton of ridiculously lengthy, count-working plate appearances these entire playoffs.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

I would like to see the same stats without the home team's stats being included.

I'm interested in the same thing as well.

Also hilarious, KC's iso is higher at home (in their cavernous park) than it is on the road.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

And put in who?

Stroman. There is no tomorrow.

Buehrle, it's his time to shine.

Not available.

 

[Dugath]

Well it can not really be argued the Jays are a "power" club not a contact club.

They are built to hit HR's and by that fact they are going to get doubles and such as well.

Issue being while they can get HR's (extra base hits) and can get walks (which lead to more RBI's from HRS and such) they are not very good with batting average.
The same thing is happening in the play offs. This is where it because an issue because now you are facing the best of the best when it comes to pitching.

KC can peck you to death because they can put the ball in play.
Jays just need their pitching to be great.

I wish Estrada and Navaro could play the 2 remaining games

 

[guyzeur]

Jays' hitters are fast learners. In a long series, they will adapt the second time they see a pitcher.

 

[Discoverer]

Yes.
Of course, Gibbons doesn't make moves early.

Yeah, that's why he stuck with Dickey so long in Game 4.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Not to mention that Donaldson/Bautista/Edwin have all had a ton of ridiculously lengthy, count-working plate appearances these entire playoffs.

I've had it up to here with your "advanced stats".

"Working the count"....who do you think you are?

 

[ryno23]

They're looking to hit the ball hard. It often goes out because they're really good hitters. It's not a complex concept.

don't dispute the fact they are looking to hit the ball hard. They have violent swings and sometimes it goes and sometimes they miss it and K.

 

[theaub]

Well it can not really be argued the Jays are a "power" club not a contact club.

They are built to hit HR's and by that fact they are going to get doubles and such as well.

Issue being while they can get HR's (extra base hits) and can get walks (which lead to more RBI's from HRS and such) they are not very good with batting average.

I believe during the season they has 2 total people with averages above .295 and one with a .270ish. The rest being .260 and below I believe. I am to lazy to check. The same thing is happening in the play offs. This is where it because an issue because now you are facing the best of the best when it comes to pitching.

KC can peck you to death because they can put the ball in play.
Jays just need their pitching to be great.

I wish Estrada and Navaro could play the 2 remaining games

The Jays and Royals had the exact same batting average this season

 

[p.l.f.]

I don't like Kauffman field much
It's pretty but without the long ball playing a big factor its singles doubles galore
I find the AL east parks alot more fun - except tropicana

 

[HamiltonNHL]

What are the Jays stats at Kauffman ?
Gotta be bad.
The Left field fence is so far away that Bautista gets sweaty.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Well it can not really be argued the Jays are a "power" club not a contact club.

They are built to hit HR's and by that fact they are going to get doubles and such as well.

Issue being while they can get HR's (extra base hits) and can get walks (which lead to more RBI's from HRS and such) they are not very good with batting average.
The same thing is happening in the play offs. This is where it because an issue because now you are facing the best of the best when it comes to pitching.

KC can peck you to death because they can put the ball in play.
Jays just need their pitching to be great.

I wish Estrada and Navaro could play the 2 remaining games

The Blue Jays and Royals had the exact same team batting average in 2015. (.269)

I'm starting to have fun.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Yeah, that's why he stuck with Dickey so long in Game 4.

which backfired (Price gave up 3 runs in 3 innings work).

 

[Jack Bauer]

And put in who?

Depends on how early.

Stroman would be my pick in the 1st 3 innings. Worry about tomorrow when/if it gets here.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

don't dispute the fact they are looking to hit the ball hard. They have violent swings and sometimes it goes and sometimes they miss it and K.

The Blue Jays had the fifth best k rate in baseball. (as a team, struck out the fifth least).