InjuredChoker
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he looked like that 2014 offseason too, i think.
being GM isn't certainly an easy job. lot of work with not much time off.
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he looked like that 2014 offseason too, i think.
being GM isn't certainly an easy job. lot of work with not much time off.
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Sounds like this could have been the motivation in bringing an assistant this year (to maybe take over) as well.
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dahrougem2
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I would take Landeskog above all of them. When at his absolute best there are very few players in the league who can take over a game both physically and offensively the way he can. It just doesn't happen often (not complaining, though).
McFarland
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Optimism=Delusional
No it's not. Sure it would be nice to be a team with the success and experience and mental fortitude that a team that has won multiple recent Cups has but wishing it and brow beating it and talking about it and pretending it and buying it with vets and rentals doesn't make it come any easier or faster.
They don't have the experience, they don't know how to win, they don't have a winning mentality. Yeah that's a problem. What are they going to do about it? They also don't have a team full of hall of famers who can collectively get together and say enough is enough, we can't accept losing. They don't have the experience and confidence of a Cup win to draw back on when things get tough. How are they going to get that belief and trust in each other? Just by someone yelling and screaming about it?
That's my thinking too. Seems like he has a lot of influence and he's currently getting assimilated to the "Avs way". I do think if Sakic steps down that it would be easier for Roy to step back as well.
Jarey Curry
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Cant really compare MacKinnon with those guys, he hasnt played his best yet but easily wins if you compare everyone together at the age of 20...
It will be interesting to see where Rantanen fits among those guys in a few years
cgf
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Based off of what they've shown thus far, at their very best Dutchy & MacK are on another level from anyone else on this team. They don't just dominate control of the puck and drive it into the offensive zone, they do that while also being a constant threat and driving really high caliber scoring chances. MacK's not as good at getting the puck back as "**** it, I got this" Duchene (usually seen in games against Nashville or Dallas), but he's got time to catch up in that area; and with his superior shot & vision (when he doesn't panic and actually uses it) he's capable of reaching a level none of them have hit yet.
We've gotten some glimpses of what that level could look like with MacK's tear to finish his rookie season + 1st playoff series, the way he was heating up on the right side of Landy-ROR for the 10-15 games leading up to his season ending injury last year, and the way he started this season; but we've still only seen flashes from him in those stretches, not the shift-to-shift dominance he's capable of once he's settled & in his prime.
Though we'd be a much better team if we got the very best of Landy/EJ every single game as well...pity that no athletes in any sport are at their very best at all times; so we're stuck hoping that their consistency keeps improving so that we can see more & more "good days" and less & less bad ones.
We've gotten some glimpses of what that level could look like with MacK's tear to finish his rookie season + 1st playoff series, the way he was heating up on the right side of Landy-ROR for the 10-15 games leading up to his season ending injury last year, and the way he started this season; but we've still only seen flashes from him in those stretches, not the shift-to-shift dominance he's capable of once he's settled & in his prime.
Though we'd be a much better team if we got the very best of Landy/EJ every single game as well...pity that no athletes in any sport are at their very best at all times; so we're stuck hoping that their consistency keeps improving so that we can see more & more "good days" and less & less bad ones.
Jarey Curry
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Do we play today? Its been so long I dont even know anymore.
Is it playoffs already? Did we miss playoffs?
Is it playoffs already? Did we miss playoffs?
tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
We're unbeaten so far this year when Cody does the GDT's.
Time to keep the streak going!
The fact that it's only been 2 games means nothing.
Time to keep the streak going!
The fact that it's only been 2 games means nothing.
AvsGuy
Hired the wrong DJ again
I don't really understand this response. Chicago never would've gone on to have huge playoff tears and build that success and experience and mental fortitude if they continued losing big games in the 3rd period like the Avs do. I'm not sure what wishing or pretending or yelling or screaming has to do with anything - its perfectly valid to at some point say "Hey, the top teams in this league aren't pissing away close games in the 3rd period...Why are our guys still doing it?"
If you want me to be specific, that Landeskog giveaway in the last minute of the stadium game isn't something that experience is going to help remedy. He knows what could happen if he doesn't get that puck out, and he coughed it up like a hairball anyways. That's a boneheaded hockey play and has little to do with either coaching or experience. And 99 times out of 100, that's a play that players like Kane or Toews don't make.
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tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
It's not something that experience gives a player confidence and a much less of a chance to panic? He's just a dumb hockey player and it's nothing that years of success and trust in his teammates and himself will give him? Kane and Toews didn't need time to build these things up themselves, they just had it at 18 or 22? Or you know, they have a better supporting cast and don't have Zach Redmond coughing up game winners for them too.
AvsGuy
Hired the wrong DJ again
lol you're losing me with your responses here. Kane and Toews won the Cup at 21 and 22 respectively, with admittedly better supporting casts (especially on defense), but they were the driving force of that team at a young age, and its not too much to expect that our young players should be doing the same.
As for Landeskog, he's 23 - if he's still losing us games with less than a minute to play, perhaps he really is just a dumb hockey player. You can't pretend that he just started playing hockey when he was drafted and therefore only has "5 years experience" - he's been playing hockey his whole life. NHL level or not, there are plays that smart players just don't make. At a certain stage our best players need to be our best players, and around here they get a free pass instead. Perhaps this is why we can't take the next step with the ease that smartly-run franchises do.
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Just finished listening to Roy's interview. Loved the way he called out the core players saying it's time for them to take the next step. I also like the fact that he included himself in the group that has to do better.
There is no more pass from me to those guys except maybe Mack but even him that is borderline being in the league for three years now. The other guys have been in this league long enough to have figure it out by now. My biggest problem with this team is the way they play with the lead. To me they have proved many times that they can play with the best teams but they can't get it done for 60 minutes. As for Roy he still needs to prove to me that he knows what he is doing. As he starts getting help at D, we'll see if his system is good enough for the NHL. I have yet to be convinced.
The "young" card is no longer available for this team. It's time to grow some balls and deliver. Not making the playoffs is ok (although very disappointing) as long as they have a very strong finish. However next year they have to make it to the playoffs.
There is no more pass from me to those guys except maybe Mack but even him that is borderline being in the league for three years now. The other guys have been in this league long enough to have figure it out by now. My biggest problem with this team is the way they play with the lead. To me they have proved many times that they can play with the best teams but they can't get it done for 60 minutes. As for Roy he still needs to prove to me that he knows what he is doing. As he starts getting help at D, we'll see if his system is good enough for the NHL. I have yet to be convinced.
The "young" card is no longer available for this team. It's time to grow some balls and deliver. Not making the playoffs is ok (although very disappointing) as long as they have a very strong finish. However next year they have to make it to the playoffs.
tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
It's fine, I give up. Yes our young players need to progress but just to expect them to carry a team to a championship out of thin air is a bit too much for me. I guess that's why I'm not an optimist. They get no free pass and then what? Doesn't matter what's around them, they should make up the difference? A team will just get mental fortitude because someone says so? I'll hope for the day when they wake up and say, yep we are mentally stronger now, let's win a championship!
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That isn't the expectation though. The expectation is that the core can carry them to the playoffs.
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Where did I say I was looking for them to take us to a championship? I know they need more time for that. All I said was for them to take the next step to bring us to the playoffs and play better with the lead.
tigervixxxen
Optimism=Delusional
Doesn't matter, championship or playoffs, it's the expectation that they can will themselves there.
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