His response that in the past we’ve addressed this ‘very well’ tells me all I need to know about him and this leafs team. When Nylander went down earlier this season against Florida, I wonder if Keefe thought that was a perfect response. It’s time to stop being Gandhi in these situations, it wont work!
we are so SOFT. We will never win like this
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His response that in the past we’ve addressed this ‘very well’ tells me all I need to know about him and this leafs team. When Nylander went down earlier this season against Florida, I wonder if Keefe thought that was a perfect response. It’s time to stop being Gandhi in these situations, it wont work!
Stephen
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Don't forget Danny Markov. Even Korolev and Karpovtsev ate punishment to get things done for this team. Will always appreciate their less than glamorous contributions, nursing those tiny leads vs Philadelphia in 1999.
Jimmy Firecracker
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I couldn’t give two shits what they said in a meeting or how they “addressed” it. Nothing will change so long with Captain Timid and Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum rotating the “A.”
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They've stuck up for each other before in the past but have a revolving cast of mercenaries in the middle and bottom of the lineup who are in the designated "give a crap" role... if they respond it's more mechanical than genuine feeling.
Some people will denounce all this as blood thirsty violence, but the scrumming and fighting are only representations of what really matter, which is just a certain care between teammates that erupts when bad things happen to one or another. You care so much about that other guy that when you see him hurt you'll anyone accountable.
That real feeling can't be lectured into a group by a teacher after class.
Oh really? Please explain to us your expert knowledge of how the dynamics on your team worked if they say one of their players taken down by one of, if not the dirtiest players in the league.
I play house league and even we know who the dirty players are and you can bet your ass if they pull some crap we get in their face. The response would be measured if it wasn’t someone with a rep but this is the equivalent of a Marchand I’m talking about.
How would your team dynamics work? Because everyone here and those who actually play/coach the sport for a living say what happened was a disgrace.
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA .... Reaves is cute.... thinking this team gives a shit about their teammates...
Questions from the locker room
1) Two part question ... If I punch someone, will it affect my manicure? Second part ... How do I punch... someone?
2) I sense a micro aggression, I need a safe space...
3) It's in my contract that my skin will never touch another persons skin...
4) Uhh... classic example of Male Toxicity ... can't we just discuss how we feel about a situation, meditate and then both go to our corners?
5) Can't I just respond angrily through a harshly worded text? or publicly shame him on Facebook?
6) Is there an app for that?
7) After that Boston game my Dad said my balls have not dropped yet... should I see a Dr?
8) We should not judge Brad till we walk a mile in his itsy bitsy size 7 skates...
9) My wife said, I cant come back to bed until i find my manhood... I've been looking everywhere, cant find it...
10) ... Gosh so much talk about Lily, Lily, Lily this, Lilly that... it's not like he has a massive Twitter/X following... which is how we judge a persons value.. how many followers do you have... can we talk about ME for a few minutes, as we all know if you are under the age of 35 the world revolves around ME!!! ... JUST ME .... .. ME ME ME ME... Ahh ME ME ME ME...
Cant make a Zebra into a lion, they are who we think they are ...
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Rumors in Toronto are that Tre ripped into the team .., if its not true he should have, he wont have a better opportunity to set the tone this year...
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Basically, you are referring to the media, because who knows what other NHL players and coaches are saying. The reason the media here loves to blow these things up is because it creates views, eyeballs, clicks, listeners, etc., which then prompts these pointless statements by the coach and the players. In the heat of a moment during a game in May, nothing that happened on November 2nd is going to pop into someone's head and be used as motivation to start a scrum or exact some level of revenge against an opposing player. Games are won and lost because of this stuff. They are won and lost because of talent differences, in-game coaching and systems, and mostly the convergence of a series of completely random events that cannot be predicted or prepared for in advance.
If, as I expect, Toronto goes out and wins 7-2 tonight, and then beats Tampa on Monday, will that mean that this team is now suddenly tougher? It will just be because they were the better team on both nights. The Leafs lost a coin flip against Boston. Do you think the result would have been different if Ryan Reaves or John Tavares had cross-checked Brad Marchand after the injury? That stuff is almost always irrelevant to the outcome of a game.
Bingo. Ginuine hard or emotional respnses I’ve seen from only one member of this core and that’s Reilly - even him occasionally.
Larcos_Unal
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The core is the problem, specifically rhe guys wearing letters. Nothing will change unless they join the fight.
We've seen evidence that Reaves, Domi, Bertuzzi, Clifford, Acciari, Schenn, etc can only do so much
The identity of the team is set by the guys that play the big minutes and make rhe big bucks. They need to get their hands dirty and lead by example.
We've seen evidence that Reaves, Domi, Bertuzzi, Clifford, Acciari, Schenn, etc can only do so much
The identity of the team is set by the guys that play the big minutes and make rhe big bucks. They need to get their hands dirty and lead by example.
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Shout to Grabovski for battling through like multiple concussions in the same game and still getting it done and engaging Chara on the boards. Where are our tough Euros?!
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ROR pretty much made it clear he wasn't looking to come back a day or 2 after Keefe was given the thumbs up by BT. It was ambiguous until that point. If you think a guy who complained about adjustments to their system was all for coming back with this head coach...I don't know what to tell you. It was all over the news once Keefe was coming back that ROR wasn't likely to.
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After thinking about it some more I think the best solution would have been Marner flying in and dropping them. Just once.
That would bond the team for the year to come for sure.
The media, aka ex-players like Mike Johnson, Jeff O’Neill, Ray Ferraro, Anson Carter, Messier, Gretzky right? You are dead wrong thinking they only say things to get views and clicks. Do they sometimes exaggerate, sure but a lot of times they are speaking from a place of experience and I’ll take their word over nobodies on an Internet forum (not you specifically here, just in general).
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This is the stuff that drives me nuts. This fool is saying with a straight face that scoring 2 goals in a 3-2 loss was "a form of response". Gtf out of here.
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The ironic thing about the way they respond IMO is that they don't usually fight and thus do not want to get embarrassed. What do they think they look like by not fighting? Better? Does JT looking right at Willy get slammed into the boards and then pretend he didn't see it better? It's almost comical at this point.
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Marner threw a big hit on the forecheck in the corner on a Bruin D and was part of the 2-2 comeback scoring the 1st one but him fighting Marchand would have earned him real brownie points.
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Yeah, just fight once to show you will do it. If you lose I'm sure the locker room will have a chuckle about it later.
I am going to assume they likely were discussing the game since they were losing and how to win... Terrible response and I know the fans didn't care about the game, but the bad play on the ice was likely the main focal point during the first intermission.
I actually saw Marner throw a few big hits (by his standard), was surprised.
"Trying to win is loser talk"
I know the fans don't care about winning, but that is the team's job.
Are they not allowed to try to win the game and have a physical response too? Trying to win the game isn’t a response, it’s their job lol
He said he was disappointed with the response. Just because he said coming out and playing better and trying to win was a form of a response doesn't mean he appreciated how they responded physically.
It sounds like the team as a whole had a discussion about it and from what I saw it was led by Reaves and Tavares... Keefe said it to the media and I think (not 100% sure) I saw he said it to the team. Doesn't sound like he was satisfied with the response, but playing for an injured player is also a good part of the response.
