Salary Cap: We are looking for nuclear Kessels. And whales. Beam me up, Scotty Bowman

[Pancakes]

Chicago would match any offer sheet on Saad unless you offer him a ludicrous amount of money like 6-7 million. We don't have the picks to offer sheet anyways I dont' think due to no 2nd.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I have to ask. What's this obsession over having more elite talent on this team? I mean I'm not going to complain if we got Kessel (well depending on what we give up). But has anyone actually looked at how some of the other cup teams have been built?

Chicago:
14/15: 28, 27, 23, 22 were their 4 top goal scorers. 3 60 point players.
12/13: 23, 23, 17, 10 (on pace for 40, 40, 34.8, 17). 55 pts (95.9), 48 (83.7), 31 (63.5), 27 (48.1)
09/10: 30, 25, 25, 24. 4 60+ point scorers.

LA:
13/14: 29, 27, 19, 15 were their 4 top goal scorers. 1 70 pt player, 1 50 pt player, 2 40+ pt players.
11/12: 25, 22, 22, 18. 1 70 pt player, 2 50 pt players, 1 40 pt player.

Boston:
10/11: 30, 26, 22, 21. Two 62 pt players, 2 50+ pt players.

Now look at Pittsburgh.
Crosby has averaged 32 goals the last 2 years. Malkin 25, Kunitz 26, Neal/Horn 26, Perron 22. This is a team that offensively should be able to get it done. We do not need another elite elite player. Seriously. Go get someone like Oshie, Eriksson, JVR, Skinner, whatever. We do not need 40 goal 80 point players. There are skilled guys out there that will not cost a ton (compared to Kessel) and will have a very manageable cap hit. I'd much rather have Eriksson and Oshie for what... 8.15m then 8m for Kessel and a 900k scrub.

I get that Kessel is the "sexy" choice. But he's not a need. We need players who can play with our stars... but who are not necessarily stars themselves.

Now imagine we could trade Kunitz (+?) and Sutter (+?) and get Oshie and Eriksson. This below is only around 41m on forwards. Add in the rest of our current contracts (and a few guesses on the cheap guys) and it's around 62m. Lots of cap space to fill those holes and give Eriksson, Perron and Maatta their extensions next summer.

Eriksson - Crosby - Hornqvist
Perron - Malkin - Oshie
Dupuis - XXXXX - Bennett
Plotnikov - Sundqvist - XXXXX

You want to tweak that a little bit? Start making 1-1 player trades for someone that better addresses what you're looking for (speed, whatever). But it's a lot easier to make trades once you have talented players. It's a lot harder to actually get those talented players.

Oh and guess what. Odds are something like that doesn't need us to move KK, DP, Sprong, etc.

I think you're looking over the fact that even though those totals are low, they were both stacked with elite talent.

LA's numbers are skewed since both cup runs added elite talent late in Carter and Gaborik.

Edit: Did you read my PM?

 

[Nakawick]

agreed riptide. Kessel is great for our Art Ross chances but not necessarily our Stanley Cup chances.

 

[MrWilson*]

agreed riptide. Kessel is great for our Art Ross chances but not necessarily our Stanley Cup chances.

Well it only took another 20 pages or so but finally I've been heard. Thx Riptide.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

agreed riptide. Kessel is great for our Art Ross chances but not necessarily our Stanley Cup chances.

Kessel is just a hair shy of being a ppg player in his playoff career.

He keeps on producing when it matters.

 

[DegenX]

I wish there was some way we could realistically get Saad. I'd sign him in a heartbeat to a 8 year deal at $5M.

Määttä ... maybe

 

[WayneSid9987]

Know how to perform the perfect crime?
Get a lawyer to set it up.
A "border incident".
How convenient.

 

[Jacob]

There are handful of guys I would offer sheet if we could get our 2nd back from Toronto which shouldn't be too difficult. Huberdeau & Kuznetsov in particular.

 

[Winger for Hire]

There are handful of guys I would offer sheet if we could get our 2nd back from Toronto which shouldn't be too difficult. Huberdeau & Kuznetsov in particular.

I just read somewhere today that Hubie is just about to sign a multi year extension. I would love to offer sheet him too, but it looks like they won't get the chance.

 

[#66]

Lapiere was that.

Yeah... I like him in the playoffs but thought he was pretty bad during the regular season. I wouldn't mind seeing him come back at the right price.

 

[SEALBound]

Kunitz, Pouliot, Scuderi, Bennett, 3rd 2016 for Kessel, 2016 2nd

Offer sheet Saad for $5.5mil, 6-7 yr.

Sign Plotnikov and Tikhonov.

Trade Sutter for picks.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/9518

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Kunitz, Pouliot, Scuderi, Bennett, 3rd 2016 for Kessel, 2016 2nd

Offer sheet Saad for $5.5mil, 6-7 yr.

Sign Plotnikov and Tikhonov.

Trade Sutter for picks.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/9518

That's the lineup. Plan the parade.

 

[BustaKapanen]

There are handful of guys I would offer sheet if we could get our 2nd back from Toronto which shouldn't be too difficult. Huberdeau & Kuznetsov in particular.

I brought that up weeks ago,kuznetzov in particular. Tatar or even to a smaller extent pulkinen from Detroit. I went in depth to the cap problems Detroit is going to run into real soon. Every move they make is going to have to be really efficient. I know I know Offersheets don't happen. I get it, but there is some very interesting scenarios this year.

 

[AR5]

Kunitz, Pouliot, Scuderi, Bennett, 3rd 2016 for Kessel, 2016 2nd

Offer sheet Saad for $5.5mil, 6-7 yr.

Sign Plotnikov and Tikhonov.

Trade Sutter for picks.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/9518

Yeah. I wanted some kind of deal where we get our 2nd back so we can get Kessel + Saad, a while ago.

Gonna be tough to get Kessel without a 1st tho...

And, no point of getting the 2nd if we only do 5.5M. Might as well go to 6M and get our picks worth.

Also, why not give 5.47 a shot and see what happens? At the very worst it forces CHI to go into cap hell and cut Sharp for pennies on the dollar, if we need another aging winger. And, failing that, it's good to screw with the perennial stanley cup winners. Let's give 'em some good ol' adversity.

 

[BB88]

Pittsburgh doesn't have the prospect pool to move KK for someone who's 30ish and is a pending FA.

That's why I had the picks option at 1st, they want to get cap space so they can do a brutal UFA signing, I would avoid those but Saad would be huge with the Pens, he is easily worth over 4M, Hamilton was looking for 7M+ .

 

[Asuna]

Kunitz, Pouliot, Scuderi, Bennett, 3rd 2016 for Kessel, 2016 2nd

Offer sheet Saad for $5.5mil, 6-7 yr.

Sign Plotnikov and Tikhonov.

Trade Sutter for picks.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/9518

But if we got Kessel we won't have any cap space to build a team!!!

 

[Ugene Magic]

Kunitz, Pouliot, Scuderi, Bennett, 3rd 2016 for Kessel, 2016 2nd

Offer sheet Saad for $5.5mil, 6-7 yr.

Sign Plotnikov and Tikhonov.

Trade Sutter for picks.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/9518

You need to fix the Kessel/2nd 2016 trade. You traded away the 2016 3rd you still need for the offer sheet.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Yeah. I wanted some kind of deal where we get our 2nd back so we can get Kessel + Saad, a while ago.

Gonna be tough to get Kessel without a 1st tho...

And, no point of getting the 2nd if we only do 5.5M. Might as well go to 6M and get our picks worth.

Also, why not give 5.47 a shot and see what happens? At the very worst it forces CHI to go into cap hell and cut Sharp for pennies on the dollar, if we need another aging winger. And, failing that, it's good to screw with the perennial stanley cup winners. Let's give 'em some good ol' adversity.

Who offer sheeted Hammer a few yrs back? Hawks fans were pissed. Drove up his price and made the Hawks match.

 

[Asuna]

Who offer sheeted Hammer a few yrs back? Hawks fans were pissed. Drove up his price and made the Hawks match.

San Jose.

 

[Headshot77]

Kunitz, Pouliot, Scuderi, Bennett, 3rd 2016 for Kessel, 2016 2nd

Offer sheet Saad for $5.5mil, 6-7 yr.

Sign Plotnikov and Tikhonov.

Trade Sutter for picks.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/9518

This. I want this to happen. A million times this.

You are probably going to have to swap out that 3rd in 2016 for a 1st in 2017 though.

 

[PensFan68]

Most here want kessel so much, but if we get him, by this time next year most will want him gone. If he doesn't score 40+ goals and seems out of shape most will be saying how stupid it was to trade a future top d for him.

I'm not saying I don't want him, but I just see this happening (101/102%).

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Most here want kessel so much, but if we get him, by this time next year most will want him gone. If he doesn't score 40+ goals and seems out of shape most will be saying how stupid it was to trade a future top d for him.

I'm not saying I don't want him, but I just see this happening (101/102%).

Quality post. I look forward to more of your input.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

San Jose.

I knew it was some Cali team, but kept thinking the Ducks, but knew I was wrong.

Most here want kessel so much, but if we get him, by this time next year most will want him gone. If he doesn't score 40+ goals and seems out of shape most will be saying how stupid it was to trade a future top d for him.

I'm not saying I don't want him, but I just see this happening (101/102%).

Nah.

Kessel's unreal.

 

[Asuna]

Coyotes didn't qualify John Moore. Decent option to look at.

 

[penzweiser]

Why do people want to sign Tikhonov