Salary Cap: We are looking for nuclear Kessels. And whales. Beam me up, Scotty Bowman

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Riptide

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I'm guessing Richards failed a drug test and L.A. is going to use that as an excuse to terminate rather than buy-out his contract.

I don't think that would work. The NHL has substance abuse programs and the player would have to go through there first. I really do not think the team could terminate a contract over a substance issue - especially if the player hasn't sought assistance yet.

And if you're talking about performance enhancing drugs, that's a league thing, not a team thing. And the penalty if caught isn't contract termination, but a series of suspensions (20 games, 40 games, season, etc).
 

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I would love to have Kessel on the team but I dont know if I like the idea of us not having first or second round picks again. Our drafting has been so weak so we kinda rely on cant miss picks...

We can just pretend we've drafted guys with the picks we've moved. Not existing is pretty much the same result as our drafting/development record.
 

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We really need some screenshots of the Pens site with Phil Kessel photoshopped in, like what happened on Jagrwatch. Say it's a super secret preview that some intern let slip. Let's take this thing to the next level!
 

Waffle Fries

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Sundqvist can play wing too. lol. if we can get him for a 7th or something then that's fine. i always liked talbot

Right, that's why there's flexibility. There's about to be a lot of roster turnover, and bringing in Max might placate the locker room when/if guys like Kunitz get the boot. Sid and Fleury would be thrilled to have their BFF back.

Sweeney is out of his mind and Max wants out. We might get him for future considerations.
 

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I am kinda leaning toward the deal getting made the more that I think about it. The clock is ticking much more for Toronto than us. Realistically they have until tomorrow around noon or so and then the Pens need to start working on alternatives. If the Pens drop out Toronto loses its best fit and likely will have to take less.

Granted we have seen teams do just that in the past. But I think that at some point soon Toronto has to ask themselves do they want to walk away from a good deal and be 'stuck' with Kessel, at least for another year, or to get a fresh start on a rebuild and not get greedy. I think that in the end they likely choose that option.

But I do believe that we know by noon tomorrow or soon after. The Pens are not going to go into the FA market with this unresolved, and will not wait until the last minute either. At some point JR will call and say this is it, take it or leave it. And if it is leave it, move on. That point has to be around noon tomorrow.
 

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I would love to have Kessel on the team but I dont know if I like the idea of us not having first or second round picks again. Our drafting has been so weak so we kinda rely on cant miss picks...

true, that way we might be able to draft someone like Kessel
 

Asuna

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Right, that's why there's flexibility. There's about to be a lot of roster turnover, and bringing in Max might placate the locker room when/if guys like Kunitz get the boot. Sid and Fleury would be thrilled to have their BFF back.

Sweeney is out of his mind and Max wants out. We might get him for future considerations.

superstarrrrr

Sundqvist - Talbot - xxx
 

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At 700k or w/e, I don't care about Talbot for the fourth one way or another.

I'm willing to burn a roster spot on Greg Campbell as an Olive Branch to the bosses of the referees, so it's not like I actually have a good idea of what to do on a fourth with what's available and in our price range. So long as Sundqvist makes the team and, hopefully, Farnham, I'm probably happy with the fourth already.
 

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I do not get people conflating the general concept of we give too many draft picks away, and do not properly develop those that we do take, and a trade for guys like Perron and Kessel for a middling first (though Kessel would have pluses of course).

There is zero connection between the two. Those guys produce. As stars or borderline stars. Now. Middling firsts will get you more than 100 games only slightly more than half the time. In any capacity at all, even a sucky fourth liner.

Crosby and Malkin have slightly more than half a decade in their primes.

You give up a middling first for trades like that every day of the week.

Those kind of trades have zero to do with the concept of the Pens giving away draft picks too freely. Save those complaints for the sucky rental trades that they make every year.
 

Kristopher Letang

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I don't want Talbot. Cuz I know Steigy gonna talk about the "shhhh" every game and I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE!!! Hopefully Martin is gone too, cuz I dont give a **** that he's from Minny and played football !!
 

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1. What are the chances we land Tikhonov? Just your gut instincts.
2. Can we take a moment to appreciate the fact that this is one of the best times of the year to be a hockey fan?
 

Shrimper

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I'm not sure how I'd feel about trading for Kessel if it was Kunitz + Scuderi + 1st + DP.

Would be heart-broken to lose DP. Would be my 2nd most favourite young player to go recently. After Despres.

On the flip side, bye Kunitz and Scuderi.
 

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I would love to have Kessel on the team but I dont know if I like the idea of us not having first or second round picks again. Our drafting has been so weak so we kinda rely on cant miss picks...

Yeah I mean why have Kessel now for 7 years scoring 40-50 goals a year, when MAYBE in 5 or 6 we can have a guy who is half as good as him and Sid & Geno are almost 40! :handclap::shakehead
 

Cherpak

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Has there been an absolute dead line announced by either team? The only thing I have read was something about Kessel do a 4 mill bonus after July 1st.

Is it possible the deal is done and the Penguins are waiting for TML to pay the bonus?

I don't want another Hossa comparable incident happening where we waited too long and all the other options dried up and what remained was less than desirable.
 

Waffle Fries

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superstarrrrr

Sundqvist - Talbot - xxx

Pouliot, Sutter, Scuderi 1st for Kessel
Kunitz, Spaling for Marchand, Talbot (doesn't matter if it makes sense because nothing they do makes sense)

Sign Plotnikov and Tikhonov

Marchand-Crosby-Hornqvist
Perron-Malkin-Kessel
Plotnikov-Tikhonov-Bennett
Sundqvist-Talbot-Dupuis
 

Captain Hook

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1. What are the chances we land Tikhonov? Just your gut instincts.
2. Can we take a moment to appreciate the fact that this is one of the best times of the year to be a hockey fan?
Yeah, I agree. Trade deadline, the draft and UFA are amazing times to be a hockey fan. Just have to hope JR doesn't do anything to ruin this fun time like he did on deadline day (Despres trade).

Not sure about Tikhonov. I'm guessing he's going to have to come pretty cheap to be a Penguin. Hard to imagine the Pens getting into a bidding war over him.
 

Asuna

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Pouliot, Sutter, Scuderi 1st for Kessel
Kunitz, Spaling for Marchand, Talbot (doesn't matter if it makes sense because nothing they do makes sense)

Sign Plotnikov and Tikhonov

Marchand-Crosby-Hornqvist
Perron-Malkin-Kessel
Plotnikov-Tikhonov-Bennett
Sundqvist-Talbot-Dupuis

instant cupz!!
 

Cherpak

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Pouliot, Sutter, Scuderi 1st for Kessel
Kunitz, Spaling for Marchand, Talbot (doesn't matter if it makes sense because nothing they do makes sense)

Sign Plotnikov and Tikhonov

Marchand-Crosby-Hornqvist
Perron-Malkin-Kessel
Plotnikov-Tikhonov-Bennett
Sundqvist-Talbot-Dupuis

That would definitely take care of the top 6 speed issue.
 
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