Salary Cap: We are looking for nuclear Kessels. And whales. Beam me up, Scotty Bowman

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Ogrezilla

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I think if the deal is going to be made, there will be something else leaked that is negative towards Phil a day or couple hours beforehand. Like how he doesn't tip at restaurants in Toronto or something. Anything that will lessen the blow for Leafs fans and help them move on.

I think Toronto is out of negative things to say about him.
 

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Matthias is more of a 4C if you have three other centers good at faceoffs. I dont see the fit.
 

Dennis Reynolds

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Because Toronto wants more. If we move KK I would flip Sutter to STL for a winger prospect

Sorry, that was less of a question and more of a prayer.

I don't want to move Kapanen, and I especially don't want to move Maatta.

In this deal, we don't have to part with either. I'd be ecstatic.
 

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If the Pens do make the Kessel trade, I hope that they are smart enough to top five protect the first round pick. Yeah, it is unlikely that they end up there, but the Pens have gotten burned that way before. If it is top five the pick should be the year after.

Not a bad point. Maybe something catastrophic happens. Even losing a better pick than anticipated with Perron was bad enough.

I'd make it top ten protected.
 

cajal

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I was thinking exactly that when the potential offers for Kessel were reported in the media. I don't think there's any way TOR would accept any protection on the pick.
 

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I'm with Jacob. The more time passes, the less I feel we have a shot at Kessel. Just have a gut feeling we're going to play hardball and Pouliot will be the guy JR won't trade to make the deal work. Either that, the Leafs decide to hold on to Kessel (for better or worse), or someone else comes in and beats our offer and nabs Kessel.

Maybe I'm just cynical, jaded and pessimistic, but I don't have a good feeling about us landing Kessel anymore. Not that I ever really did, but I don't see it happening anymore.
 

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I would be totally fine with Pouliot, Kunitz, Scuderi and the 2016 1st. There is no way we wouldnt be parting with a major prospect of ours and at least Pouliot hasnt confirmed hes going to be really, really good (at the NHL level). Maatta has already somewhat proven himself and Kapanen is needed for depth. Plus that gives leaves us Sutter as a chip for future trades.

Edit: Perhpas Kapanen would be better to ship off since at least Pouliot can help us now. Kapanen might not even be NHL injury fill-in ready until 2016-17.
 

Ogrezilla

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Talbot asked out , Talbot for a 6th rounder . He could be our 4C

Dupuis-Tikhonov-Plotnikov
Sundqvist-Talbot-Bennett

I can live with that.

Though I think Spaling is sticking around. As always when it comes to Spaling, Meh. Granted, Tikhonov isn't a sure thing at all. Spaling, Sundqvist and Talbot fighting for the bottom 6 center spots isn't the worst thing.
 

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Talbot is the answer. The French clique is probably angry that they've lost Despres and Lappy.

As for Beau, upper body seems fine, I've seen much skinnier in the NHL, but he needs to do something about his legs. I understand that having back-to-back knee injuries probably has made that difficult.
 

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Not a bad point. Maybe something catastrophic happens. Even losing a better pick than anticipated with Perron was bad enough.

I'd make it top ten protected.

Top five is fair enough. Well something like top seven. After that honestly in most years the difference between picks is not great through most of the first round, as far as a predictor of future success. I did not think it the great tragedy some here believed when the pick given up was 16 rather than maybe 22 for Peron. Those two picks slot about the same as far as being likely to contribute at all, let alone star.

It is the top five picks that are much more sure things.
 

IcedCapp

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I'm with Jacob. The more time passes, the less I feel we have a shot at Kessel. Just have a gut feeling we're going to play hardball and Pouliot will be the guy JR won't trade to make the deal work. Either that, the Leafs decide to hold on to Kessel (for better or worse), or someone else comes in and beats our offer and nabs Kessel.

Maybe I'm just cynical, jaded and pessimistic, but I don't have a good feeling about us landing Kessel anymore. Not that I ever really did, but I don't see it happening anymore.

maybe it happens, maybe it doesn't, but so far, everything has gone exactly as it was supposed to.
 
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