OT - NO POLITICS We’re on to Thanksgiving
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True!
Though I would never disown a family member for not believing in what I believe. That's crazy.
Unless you're a Yankee, Habs, or Maple Leaf fan. That's where I draw the line.
Sometimes I wonder about that too!
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I shorten it to "Occupied!".
About some I don't wonder, I frigging know they aren't!
- Sep 22, 2011
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I don't know. Politics takes up so little of my time, I tend to accept differences there. Each person believes what they believe and I don't have to walk in their shoes. Being a Habs fan? That I cannot forgive.
Unfortunately, sometimes it takes a significant event for people's hate to show up front and center. And we're definitely seeing a huge amount of it right now, in numbers that I never thought possible.
You coming to help?
I agree.
Happy Monday y’all - today erin and I get our first ultrasound to check on baby neelydan, who I am told is as big as a blueberry currently lol
Or baby neelydanS….stay tuned for THAT season finale
Or baby neelydanS….stay tuned for THAT season finale
Frank Borman, astronaut who commanded Apollo 8, the first crewed mission around the moon, dies - The Boston Globe
Mr. Borman later served as chief executive of Eastern Air Lines.www.bostonglobe.com
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IMO Apollo 8 was the most adventurous & dangerous of the entire program. Why, you might ask? Well for starters the mission plan was switched about half way through the training which was/is unheard of for NASA. One reason was the lunar module wasn't going to ready to be flight tested and second CIA intelligence indicated the Russians were going to send their moon rocket up unmanned just to say they got there first.
The second thing was if the CSM's engine didn't fire hard/long enough they would remain in moon orbit forever, remember there was no lunar module to act as a life boat as it did for Apollo 13
You guys saying it’s crazy to “disown” based on politics - are you really thinking it through? If I had a family member actively supporting the discrimination or oppression of a marginalized demographic (pick one, there’s lots of examples), you can bet your ass I’d say goodbye.
- Sep 22, 2011
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That's the thing. I don't consider bigotry, discrimination, or oppression to be irrevocably linked to politics. I certainly judge based on those attributes, but I don't immediately assign those attributes based on one's political affiliation.
I think its way more involved than the example above, and I don't know how to get into it without chatting politics and I try my absolute best to not talk politics out of respect of the mods here (even though i've failed in the past).
All I'll say here is, a combination of what that family member's specific message/belief is + how YOU interpret that belief has to be taken into consideration in order for me to have an opinion
You want specifics? Lets DM.
I was intentionally generalizing - the idea that family connection grants immunity to thinking that is abhorrent is a challenging one.
I agree. If you can't handle someone (relative or friend) disagreeing with you on a serious topic then you're the one with problem, not them. Open your mind instead of your mouth you just might learn something new-about the topic, yourself, them or all of the above.
What's that saying? You can disagree all you want as long as you're not being disagreeable.
Unfortunately, politics IS a huge dividing line in the US these days. It really is splitting families apart and literally turning family members against each other in a way this country hasn’t seen since the 1860s.
It didn’t used to be that way.
The advent of cable “news” and the internet (and with that, social media) have actually pushed people away from the center and to the edges. On both sides. To the point where we can’t talk about it here. Why? Because we’ve become incapable of having civil conversations and the “other side” is “evil.”
I’m actually old enough to remember when most people didn’t give a shit about each other’s politics and disagreement on hot-button topics didn’t necessarily mean you had to hate each other.
It was a better time.
For a large portion of topics I agree - but not all.I agree. If you can't handle someone (relative or friend) disagreeing with you on a serious topic then you're the one with problem, not them. Open your mind instead of your mouth you just might learn something new-about the topic, yourself, them or all of the above.
What's that saying? You can disagree all you want as long as you're not being disagreeable.
“Occupied” is probably the appropriate response, but when are we ever appropriate ?
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The concept that family is infallible just because they share a bloodline with you is way more out there to me than disowning someone because they disagree with you on certain topics.
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I don't think anyone here is claiming anyone is infallible.
This is probably a topic we should all collectively move on from
I’m one of the most well-behaved posters on the board so my advice carries a lot of weight
#moderatordano
I’m one of the most well-behaved posters on the board so my advice carries a lot of weight
#moderatordano
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