WCF Gm#1 | KINGS#3 @ BLACKHAWKS#3 | Sunday, 5/18, Hawks win 3-1, on to game 2

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He said it was rolling off his stick as he shot, and knows he should've buried it. 9 times out of ten it goes in. Now Clifford having a wide open top of the net and shooting into Crawford chest is another story...
Williams had to saucer that pass to Clifford, and got it too far ahead of him. Crawford made a great save, but Clifford really wasn't able to get the one-time shot that situation needed.
 
We've now lost 7 games in the playoffs. No team in the history of the league has ever advanced to the Cup finals after losing that many through three rounds.

Are you saying that no team has ever had 7 loses in the 1st 3 rounds and advanced to the 4th round?

That simply cannot be correct?

Edit: Calgary had 7 losses in the 1st 3 round and advanced to the final in 2004.

LA had 7 losses in 1993.

Philly in 1987.

Before that, the 1st round was best of 5.
 
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We've now lost 7 games in the playoffs. No team in the history of the league has ever advanced to the Cup finals after losing that many through three rounds.

Wrong.

See:

2003-04 Calgary Flames.
1992-93 Los Angeles Kings.
1986-87 Philadelphia Flyers.

Now, if you meant no team has WON the Stanley Cup Final with 7 first three round losses, that would be correct.

Also, no team has advanced to the Stanley Cup Final with 8 losses.
 
I think the biggest question for the Kings after Game 1 will be what to do with the #6 d-man slot, assuming RR is still not going to play, and I don't believe he took the warm-up among the about 40 guys it felt like took it. I think sitting Greene in favor of Schultz was pretty telling, many Kings have struggled over the years against Chicago, but Matt Greene was probably at a level worse than anyone else, I think the writing is on the wall, Sutter doesn't trust Greene against Chicago. But Schultz was bad today, really bad, especially on the PK, he has a real tough time getting it out of the zone. Losing RR was a huge loss because the Kings have only 6 NHL ccaliber defenders available and when you lose one you resort to fringe guys like Schultz and Greene in a conf. finals series.

The Hawks were keying on Schultz. They knew he was the weakest link in the defense and tried to expose that. If Greene gets in then he'll be the weakest link. There is a book out on them and everyone knows their weaknesses. Even us unpaid scouts! I'd say roll the dice on McNabb or Bods. Who knows they might turn out to be the next Krug.
 
I posted this in the GDT, but it probably hardly got seen there since those threads move so quickly. So, I'll just ask again...

Herby?

http://i.imgur.com/HrEDHnS.jpg

I paid $600 for two tickets total, those were probably $500-600 a pop.

Not many Kings fans in the building though, there was another couple in our section, but there were probably more posts blaming the refs in the GDT than Kings fans at UC today. :)
 
Wrong.

See:

2003-04 Calgary Flames.
1992-93 Los Angeles Kings.
1986-87 Philadelphia Flyers.

Now, if you meant no team has WON the Stanley Cup Final with 7 first three round losses, that would be correct.

Also, no team has advanced to the Stanley Cup Final with 8 losses.

No team has ever won the cup as an eight seed.
No team in any sport has ever won 2 best of seven series after losing three games in a row.
No team has every beat the # 1, #2 and #3 seeds and then won the cup.
It seems like the Kings are no team
 
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No team has ever won the cup as an eight seed.
No team in any sport has every 2 best of seven series after losing three games in a row.
No team has every beat the # 1, #2 and #3 seeds and then won the cup.
It seems like the Kings are no team

Yup.

Every time I hear:

"No team has ever...."
"So and so's record when...."
"In every game of this series so far..."

I tune out. Past performance does not indicate future results. This team has a one-game-at-a-time mentality, the games they or their opponents have won/lost previously don't matter to me in the slightest.
 
Have to realize that with success comes a lot of Johnny Come-Lately bandwagon fans. Think these guys can name a Hawks player prior to them drafting Toews and/or Kane? I bet you most of em couldn't tell you who formed the ABC line or who their starting goalies were before Niemi. Hell some of em might not even remember Niemi.

I have respect for those who stuck it out in the dark days of the Hawks under Wirtz, same goes for the Pens fans who had to settle with the likes or Morozov and Surovy and Tarnstrom. And same goes for us Kings fans who had to sit through games watching fools like Cechmanek or LaBarbera in net.
 
On AMart's dumb penalty.

There might be time and a place to send a physical message, that was not even close to proper time. It was the wrong player, wrong situation and wrong time in the game. It's probably the worst player on the ice, who did absolutely nothing to Quick and it was right after you could feel the momentum in the game shifting to the Kings. The Hawks bottom six has been terrible, when they send Bollig out, there isn't much of an expectation for good things to happen, much like when the Kings had Fraser centering Lewis and Clifford you were just hoping for 30 seconds of neutral play while the good players rested. Martinez for no reason turned that into a PP and eventually a PP goal in what was essentially a one goal game.

The Hawks are not going to goon it up with the Kings, they are going to try and win with speed and skill and part of that is getting on the PP. The Kings just can't go to the penalty box by taking stupid penalties after the whistle against guys like Bollig to send some kind of un-needed physical message. Especially not after taking a couple of good punches from the Hawks early in the game and staying on their feet.

It was a terrible, terrible penalty that had a huge effect on the game.
 
Holy crap, when did Hawk fans turn into Canuck style fans?

Tell me about it; I even saw one, walking the streets of Downtown L.A., from Walt Disney Hall.

Have to realize that with success comes a lot of Johnny Come-Lately bandwagon fans. Think these guys can name a Hawks player prior to them drafting Toews and/or Kane? I bet you most of em couldn't tell you who formed the ABC line or who their starting goalies were before Niemi. Hell some of em might not even remember Niemi.

I have respect for those who stuck it out in the dark days of the Hawks under Wirtz, same goes for the Pens fans who had to settle with the likes or Morozov and Surovy and Tarnstrom. And same goes for us Kings fans who had to sit through games watching fools like Cechmanek or LaBarbera in net.

Yeah, I noticed that too, especially for an Original Six team; seeing that happen to the Blackhawks gives me the extremely strong (and wrong) impression that all but Chicago have loyal fanbases amongst Original Six teams.

I've been lurking in the Chicago section of the site and one of the old-timer fans told me that the old Wirtz administration was responsible for the Blackhawks, being buried in Chicago sports media despite its Original Six status. :shakehead

Off-topic question: do I count as a "bandwagon fan", despite the fact the first-ever hockey team I heard of before I arrived here...in America, let alone this continent, was the Los Angeles Kings and the 1st-ever hockey player I heard of was Wayne Gretzky? I did land at LAX. :naughty:
 
Still upset that we lost this game. The only other game I can point to this postseason and say we outplayed our opponents and lost was probably SJ series game 3.

The way that series trended after that will hopefully be replicated here.
 

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