Confirmed with Link: Walman and a 2nd Round Pick traded to SJ

[Perfect Human]

So is this right?
Wings: B level prospect in Kiiskinen
San Jose: 2nd from Nashville (Tampa's OG pick), Jake Wallman
Nashville: B level prospect in Gibson

 

[jkutswings]

Silver lining: Zero percent chance that the upcoming season is just a, "keep the same roster, run it back" scenario.

Fingers crossed that moves continue to add one or more impact players.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

We picked a guy in the 2nd to get a 2nd and then trade that 2nd for the 2nd time. Maybe I think, how many 2nds?

 

[ShelbyZ]

Can anybody comment on the reliability of this guy?

https://x.com/i/web/status/1805687303547101687

Big Splash probably means going full Ken Holland and spending to the cap on mediocrity.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

If it didn't cost a 2nd, why did it cost a 2nd? Yzerman was just feeling generous?

I don’t understand this reasoning. Is every trade in NHL history an accurate reflection of the moving asset’s value because that was the price paid? No GM misevaluates?

 

[Henkka]

This is a cap dump so clearly Yzerman is planning on making some more moves. Wonder if this increases the likelihood that kane is re signed?

It will increase the likelihood for everything. Before this, we had like ~6M space for an extra player (if not Kane).

Now we have 9 million.

 

[Perfect Human]

Pretty sure this could be a 3-way trade but because san jose didnt send anything to nashville it isnt?

 

[jaster]

I'll admit, this does seem slightly extreme to ensure AlJo has a top-6 spot, but I also can't say I'm surprised.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Give me this and I’ll be ok:

Skjei-Seider
Edvinsson-Pesce
Johansson-Whoever’s left

I can dig this (can dig Montour too personally) but in skeptical of our ability to attract two of the best defensemen in the market in a single offseason. Idk maybe I’m too doomer.

 

[jaster]

Pretty sure this could be a 3-way trade but because san jose didnt send anything to nashville it isnt?

They could have just said "future considerations." That's all we got from San Jose after all.

Are you sure he is not Brad Krysko?

You might be on to something...

 

[Henkka]

The weirdness with him being out of the lineup near the end of the season makes me think there was something else going on.

I started joking if Walman was still alive given there was so much mystery about his status and when and if he'd be back in the lineup.

This is an odd move that hopefully looks that way right now because of incomplete information.

Yzerman said something about muscle injury at last presser.

 

[Snuggs]

Bit of a stinker. Wants that money early for something. Seems like you could have waited for UFA to settle and dealt Walman for a low pick.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

There's no way you just do this to run back the same defense with a locked up Ghost. It can't be.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

This may be a stupid question because I never quite know all the rules, but couldn't they have put Walman on waivers and potentially moved him for free?

 

[RRhoads]

It will increase the likelihood for everything. Before this, we had like ~6M space for an extra player (if not Kane).

Now we have 9 million.

Nope
We have about 30 Mill for 7 players. After Seider and Raymond are signed, we'll have about 13 for 5 players.

 

[Henkka]

I knew it! Aaron Ekblad, welcome home!

Only what I've seen is Trouba to Detroit.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

why didn’t we just trade cleveland for a 2nd. he was takin in the 2nd so worth a 2nd right?

 

[Perfect Human]

Reading scouting reports on Kiiskinen is encouraging that he is not a throw away prospect and we actually got a potential player.

He was 17 when drafted and young for his draft year. Got a taste in liiga as a Draft Eligible and played all year there as a D+1 apart from 8 games where he had 21 points for the U20 team. He scored 4g6a in 38 games with the Pelicans last year.

Wings need wingers and this guy is probably the 2nd or 3rd best winger prospect in the system now behind Mazur and maybe Buch.

Not unhappy with this at all.

 

[Euro Twins]

Disgusting trade. Expecting that there's more to this.

I know he had a bad attitude and the coaches didn't like him but why give him away for free? Let alone pay to give him away for free.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

This may be a stupid question because I never quite know all the rules, but couldn't they have put Walman on waivers and potentially moved him for free?

Yeah, like what they did with Goodrow.

 

[better Red than Dead]

Big Splash probably means going full Ken Holland and spending to the cap on mediocrity.

Better opportunity? He’s was the top pairing guy here

 

[Ricelund]

So is this right?
Wings: B level prospect in Kiiskinen
San Jose: 2nd from Nashville (Tampa's OG pick), Jake Wallman
Nashville: B level prospect in Gibson

Yeah, this is what people are losing their minds over.

Better opportunity? He’s was the top pairing guy here

Not down the stretch.

I know he had a bad attitude and the coaches didn't like him but why give him away for free? Let alone pay to give him away for free.

Let’s see what Yzerman does with the cap space.

 

[Pavels Dog]

If it's to resign Ghost it's atrocious

Let's be real for a second. Ghost had 56 points. From the new year on he had 30 points, 27 assists. Walman had 1 (one) assist in that timeframe. Same number as Holl, in over double the games.

I don't think that alone should make Walman a cap dump because he was clearly not playing healthy, but Wings need the offense Ghost brings way more than they need what Walman brings.

 

[Snuggs]

This may be a stupid question because I never quite know all the rules, but couldn't they have put Walman on waivers and potentially moved him for free?

In my head I said the same thing... Literally could have just waived him.

 

[Tatar Shots]

This may be a stupid question because I never quite know all the rules, but couldn't they have put Walman on waivers and potentially moved him for free?

Presumably because we knew no one would take him for free. I think it is safe to say that something we don't know about is the reason that Walman was mysteriously absent from the lineup down the stretch last year. Yzerman is not dumb, if he could have moved Walman for less he would have done so.