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W/C Mikko Rantanen (2015, 10th, COL) II

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He's a very good prospect who will have a long NHL career. He got a little overrated because of his point production in the AHL. Everyone was starting to say he should of been drafted higher, like maybe he should have been a top 6 pick. No he was drafted exactly where he was supposed to go. He'll be a good NHL player for a long time but it seems like he's going to need more time to develop. 0 points in 11 NHL games isn't anything to write home about but of course that's not the whole story. When he plays in the NHL is he getting 2nd or 3rd line minutes with th Avalanche?
 
Kurt Cobain said:
He's a very good prospect who will have a long NHL career. He got a little overrated because of his point production in the AHL. Everyone was starting to say he should of been drafted higher, like maybe he should have been a top 6 pick. No he was drafted exactly where he was supposed to go. He'll be a good NHL player for a long time but it seems like he's going to need more time to develop. 0 points in 11 NHL games isn't anything to write home about but of course that's not the whole story. When he plays in the NHL is he getting 2nd or 3rd line minutes with th Avalanche?
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He got 4th line minutes in the 9 games last season and has looked really good in the two games this year where he finally got to crack 10 minutes.

Kid absolutely should've gone higher.
 
cgf said:
He got 4th line minutes in the 9 games last season and has looked really good in the two games this year where he finally got to crack 10 minutes.

Kid absolutely should've gone higher.
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Yeah over Timo Meier ill give you that. He was the only player who got to go straight to the AHL. Storme, Marner and Zacha could have easily put up the same stats if they played in the AHL. They're all out performing Rantanen in the NHL. I know you want to say he should of went higher than Zacha but no way no how. He's already one of the best forwards on the Devils. He's on the number one PK unit and is one of the best two way players I've ever seen at 19. He physically dominates men already at 19 devilivering huge hits every game and he's only going to get stronger. He has 5 points in his first 9 NHL games and would have two more if they didn't have goals taken back. One being and offsides challenge that went against the Devils and another being a penalty away from the play. Rantanen wouldn't and shouldn't go higher than Zacha and it's gonna take a hell of a lot to over take Zacha who's combination of size, speed, strength, skill, two way play and hockey sense make one hell of a player. He will also be the Devils number one center very soon. He also wasnt handed it he took the bull by the horns and earned it. Doesn't seem like Rantanen is doing the same.

I have nothing against Rantanen he's going to be a hell of a player for a long time. I just felt last year as I do now that he got too much credit for his AHL production when other players didn't have that luxury of playing in the AHL. Now everyone is on an even playing field and the rankings of the top forwards from the 2015 draft is turning out to be exactly how the draft went. Although I would take Rantanen over Meier who I never cared for.
 
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BusQuets said:
Better than MacKinnon or Duchene? Somehow i seriously doubt it. You can praise the guy without making it a hyperbole.
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Yes. Quite easily better then Mackinnon. Duchene it's closer, but Rantanen is making more happen at both ends of the ice then any other forward on the Avs right now.




If you dont believe it watch the last two Avs games, or better yet read the opinions of those of us who actually have. He has been the Avs best forward pretty much every game he's been here this year.
 
BusQuets said:
Better than MacKinnon or Duchene? Somehow i seriously doubt it. You can praise the guy without making it a hyperbole.
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In the three games he's been up...certainly better than MacKinnon, but not better than Duchene. However, MacKinnon has been pretty bloody awful the past three games, so there's that. However, Rantanen has look really smart.
 
He's been the Avs best forward since coming up but that doesn't make him a better player than guys like Landy, Mack and Duchene in general.

Very promising seeing how good he is though. As someone else said, it's mind blowing that he doesn't have some points. He's making stuff happen every shift. He already had that top level poise and ability to use his reach and body but his skating this year is a step beyond what I've seen from him in the past.
 
BusQuets said:
Better than MacKinnon or Duchene? Somehow i seriously doubt it. You can praise the guy without making it a hyperbole.
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He's been absolutely awesome in these 3 games.

Can't believe he doesn't have a point yet, he's created so many chances and had so many chances.
He's going to be an elite 2way winger.
 
Not getting any points in the NHL so far kinda sucks but people need to remember that prospects develop differently. As an example, simply because Aho has been more productive so far does not mean that Rantanen can't become better. Progression is not linear and instant in many cases.
 
Don Corleone said:
Not getting any points in the NHL so far kinda sucks but people need to remember that prospects develop differently. As an example, simply because Aho has been more productive so far does not mean that Rantanen can't become better. Progression is not linear and instant in many cases.
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Rantanen is actually better at the moment than Aho.
 
Don Corleone said:
Not getting any points in the NHL so far kinda sucks but people need to remember that prospects develop differently. As an example, simply because Aho has been more productive so far does not mean that Rantanen can't become better. Progression is not linear and instant in many cases.
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Rantanen has played better than Aho in the NHL this year and Aho has looked really good so far.
 
BB88 said:
Rantanen has played better than Aho in the NHL this year and Aho has looked really good so far.
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The point was that Rants will improve as a player not make comparisons. He sure does look promising but at the end of the day he has zero points so far. A top 6 player also needs to produce, looking good out there is not enough.
 
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Don Corleone said:
The point was that Rants will improve as a player not make comparisons. He sure does look promising but at the end of the day he has zero points so far. A top 6 player also needs to produce, looking good out there is not enough.
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I have seen Rants play these past couple of Avs games, and while I don't agree that he's been the best player (I think Duchene and Landy have shown more), he definitely has had chances and setup his teammates for some (Mack had a pass from Rants square in the slot and he shot it wide or over the net).

I see the talent he already has and why the Avs fanbase is so high on him - the only knock I have on him is that he's not a dynamic skater and could improve, but it's only a matter of time until the points start coming.
 
Don Corleone said:
The point was that Rants will improve as a player not make comparisons. He sure does look promising but at the end of the day he has zero points so far. A top 6 player also needs to produce, looking good out there is not enough.
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You pretty much said in your post that Aho is the better player today.

It's 3 games and Avs haven't exactly been on fire, let's see where he is at 10 point mark this season.
 
BB88 said:
You pretty much said in your post that Aho is the better player today.
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Said that he has been more productive so far and he has. That does not mean I think Aho will be better in the future. Right now? Hard to say, both have barely played in the NHL.
 
Watching Mikko's elegance, intelligence, and creativity is intoxicating. How anyone has any doubts about him becoming a high end player is baffling. Even against NHLers you can see that he's smarter n more skilled than almost everyone else on the ice.
 
Already waiting for Ippenator to come and tell us how Rantanen didn't play well last game and how he sucked because he didn't get any points! Because that is everything that matters, not how well you play and even though you are your teams best player on the ice for that game
 
I wouldn't say he was our best player...that honor goes to Nikita Zadorov (yet again)...but yes Mikko was excellent once again against the preds. That he didn't get 2-3 points is simply shocking.

It was like watching Radulov the first few games of the season; the points weren't there, but he was clearly on another level than his team's other forwards. The same's been true of Mikko (with Duchene being the only other contender for that title).
 
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